What would make CBS Sports’ Josh Pate say, ‘I don’t think (Texas) should be in playoffs’?

CBS Sports’ Josh Pate reacts to Texas Longhorns playoff chance if UT loses to Texas A&M.

As Selection Sunday approaches, the resumes of the teams in the college football playoff ranking are being hotly debated. The Texas Longhorns schedule is getting kicked around pretty hard. In fact, some feel the UT schedule is so soft, the Horns should be left out of the playoff if they have two losses.

CBS Sports Josh Pate put the Horns schedule and playoff chances under the microscope soon after the latest college football playoff rankings were announced. He thinks several factors like brand name and expectations are helping Texas in the current rankings.

“The playoff committee’s ranking of Texas, I think, is largely contingent on eye test, brand viability, which is not a data point … but it is, and the third thing is, they expect them to do good. They expect them to beat Texas A&M. They expect them to be in the SEC Championship. Again, it’s not supposed to work this way, I think you and I both know that. But I think you and I both know it does work this way. There is a lot of baking in of expectations when it comes to rankings.” — Josh Pate

The Longhorns are currently No. 3 in the rankings, which gives UT a No. 2 seed in the bracket. That would play out if Texas beats the Aggies. But Pate debates what happens if those expectations are not met.

“Let’s just explore the disaster nightmare scenario in Austin of, you guys lose to Texas A&M. And then remove the Longhorn logo and make it a blind resume. What are you hanging you hat on? What win?” — Josh Pate

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Texas has played several teams, like Michigan and Oklahoma, that were ranked at game time, but have fallen by the wayside since. This severely hurts UT’s resume.

“Michigan screwed you guys. I give you all the credit in the world for scheduling big out-of-conference games, but Michigan screwed you. That’s out of your control, but Michigan didn’t come through.

You beat Vandy on the road. Which is a Top 40, I guess, still a Top 40 calibre win. OK. And you beat Florida (without DJ Lagway). … There is not an impressive win on Texas’ resume … if they lose their two biggest games. The Georgia game, they had a shot at home but they lost by two possessions. If they lose on the road to A&M, what else is there?” — Josh Pate

Pate thinks Texas would get in with two losses. But based on resume, he thinks there are serious issues with Texas’ body of work.

“I don’t think they’ll drop Texas that far. But if I’m removing that Longhorns logo and just putting a question mark, I’m not sure that resume stacks up.” — Josh Pate

Pate’s conclusion?

“If Texas loses to Texas A&M I don’t think they should be in the playoff.” — Josh Pate

Wisconsin reenters Josh Pate’s ‘JP Poll’ top 25 entering Week 8

Wisconsin reenters Josh Pate’s ‘JP Poll’ top 25 ranking entering Week 8

The Wisconsin Badgers have returned to the top 25 of national college football analyst Josh Pate’s weekly rankings.

The Badgers rocketed up to No. 19 overall after their second consecutive blowout victory — the latest a 42-7 win over Rutgers. Wisconsin leaped an entire 20-25 group of SMU, Louisville, Arkansas, Utah, Florida and Boise State.

Related: Badgers Wire staff predictions for Wisconsin Badgers at Northwestern football

Pate lists Wisconsin as his seventh-best Big Ten team, behind Ohio State (No. 1), Oregon (No. 4), Penn State (No. 9), USC (No. 15), Iowa (No. 17) and Indiana (No. 18).

He also emphasis that the list is a power rating as opposed to a power ranking — much like ESPN SP+. It works to evaluate a team solely based on its quality and not on its resume. That explains Ohio State’s place at No. 1 despite losing at Oregon on Saturday.

Here is Pate’s full top 25:

https://twitter.com/JoshPateCFB/status/1846359028231729543

All metric systems have significantly upgraded the Badgers after their back-to-back blowout wins. Wisconsin fans feel as if the team has turned the corner, and most rating systems agree with that sentiment.

Next up for the Badgers is a road trip to Evanston, Illinois on Saturday to face the Northwestern Wildcats. A third consecutive decisive win would push the Badgers to 5-2 on the season and 3-1 in Big Ten play, and could see the team enter the AP Top 25 for the first time this season.

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CBS Sports’ Josh Pate is buying what Texas A&M head coach Mike Elko is selling

Mike Elko is building something special, and this season is just the start

Texas A&M (5-1, 3-0 SEC) is off to a hot start after finishing the first half of the 2024 regular season with a 5-1 record and a 3-0, SEC-leading conference record that has shocked many in the national media who wrote off the program after the Aggies’ season-opening loss to Notre Dame.

One of the more popular college football analysts in the country has been a fan of what Texas A&M is building under new head coach Mike Elko, especially after the Aggies blew out a top 10-ranked Missouri team 41-10 in front of a packed Kyle Field before entering the Week 7 bye week.

This week, Pate, during a segment on his YouTube show with CFB analyst Cole Cubelic, discussed the difference in recruiting/player evaluations under former head coach Jimbo Fisher, who routinely relied on raw talent rather than looking past the 5 and 4-star recruiting designations.

While Elko helped build several of Texas A&M’s recruiting classes under Fisher during his time as the Aggies’ defensive coordinator, his successful two-year stint as Duke’s head coach was based on utilizing the transfer portal and recruiting athletes who fit the team’s system. However, it’s all about selling the program to future prospects, something Elko has all but mastered.

“I would almost say, that is as much like and Ohio State, as it is and LSU, or an Ole Miss or Alabama in the way they attract kids to campus and how they sell A&M” Pate stated.

“You got a guy who understands it, so I know that it was nice to beat Missouri, but even if they had lost a dog fight to Missouri, there are so many green arrows that you get when you start raising the hood on Texas A&M. I’m buying stock.”

This week, Elko and his staff have been focused on recruiting and attending several 2025 commits’ games. Meanwhile, the team continues working out and recuperating before heading to Starkville to face Mississippi State next Saturday.

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Wisconsin drops out of Josh Pate’s ‘JP Poll Top 25’ entering Week 2

Wisconsin drops out of Josh Pate’s ‘JP Poll Top 25’ entering Week 2

Wisconsin’s performance during its Week 1 win over Western Michigan was not enough to keep it in the top 25 of prominent college football analyst Josh Pate’s ‘JP Poll’ entering Week 2.

The Badgers had entered the season ranked No. 23 in his top 25, one slot ahead of the rival Iowa Hawkeyes. The team’s pedestrian performance against the Broncos has dropped it out of the top 25 entirely. Iowa, meanwhile, used a blowout win over Illinois State to rise to No. 20 in Pate’s Week 2 edition.

Related: Wisconsin two-deep depth chart for Week 2 vs. South Dakota includes minor changes

Pate likes to pitch his top 25 as a ranking closer to Bill Connelly’s SP+ than to the AP Top 25. In other words, it works to reflect a team’s quality, not just its resume. That leads to a team like Texas A&M dropping its opener to Notre Dame but maintaining a ranking in the top 20.

For more contest, here is Pate’s full Week 2 ranking:

https://twitter.com/JoshPateCFB/status/1831140414994211277

A necessary takeaway is that Wisconsin plays Pate’s No. 4 (Alabama), No. 5 (Penn State), No. 7 (Oregon), No. 11 (USC) and No. 20 (Iowa) teams this season. Western Michigan was a light start to the schedule, but things are set to get tough for the Badgers starting in Week 3.

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Popular CFB show host gives praise to Jonathan Smith, future at MSU

Josh Pate of Late Kick Live is confident Jonathan Smith will turn around MSU

Josh Pate of Late Kick Josh is confident Jonathan Smith will turn around Michigan State football.

Smith has been on the job for the Spartans for roughly seven months, and he’s already built up some confidence from Pate. On Wednesday evening, Pate stated on X that Smith “will win at Michigan State.” The post on X from Pate can be seen below:

The statement from Pate is very vague but it certainly suggests he is confident in Smith’s ability to get the Spartans back on track. Whether that’s contending for Big Ten titles or just reaching bowl games is unknown, but this is still a refreshing take from Pate to see for Spartans everywhere.

Michigan State officially opens the 2024 season on August 30 against Florida Atlantic. Kickoff from Spartan Stadium is scheduled for 7 p.m. ET and the game will be televised on Big Ten Network.

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CBS Sports analyst proclaims ‘no one in College Station doubts’ Texas A&M coach Elko

“I don’t think a lot of folks who even watch this sport carefully understand anything about Mike Elko (or) know a thing about him,” he said.

Mike Elko clearly has a big fan in CBS Sports host Josh Pate, who was “bullish” about the Texas A&M head coach this past week.

Pate continued to praise Elko this weekend as well.

“Honestly guys, I don’t think a lot of folks who even watch this sport carefully and a lot, understand anything about Mike Elko. I don’t think they know a thing about him! I think they think of Elko as that dude who’s been a high profile assistant at Notre Dame and A&M. Then they snapped their fingers, he was at Duke, they beat Clemson, that’s basically the public recall on Mike Elko,” Pate explained. “Mike Elko is a known commodity among football people. No one in football space doubts him. No one in College Station doubts him.

“They never lacked resource. I’ve been a big believer that they have the resources to be a premier program. They’ve made bad hire after bad hire so I think they made the right hire here.”

The Aggies host Notre Dame at Kyle Field on Aug. 31 to begin the season.

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‘He’s going to become a star at A&M,’ CBS Sports host is ‘bullish’ about Aggies coach Elko

“Jimbo is announcing he’s a national championship winning coach while Mike Elko’s resume is still yet to be written in College Station.”

When you look at the list of head coaches most likely to breakout this season, Mike Elko is near the top entering his first year at the helm of Texas A&M.

CBS Sports college football commentator Josh Pate echoed those sentiments in a recent conversation with TexAgs.

“When you get feedback about how organized, how attention to detail oriented the process is there, how thorough the evaluation is in going and acquiring talent. It had to be that way at Duke so it’s just that way now with a ton more resources. When you get all that, how are you not bullish on it? I don’t care that maybe Mike Elko’s name didn’t dominate the headlines,” Pate said. “Because when DeBoer came into ‘Bama, that was like a fish’s tail muddying up the water, no one was going to notice them hiring anything less than a superstar head coach.

“They may have hired a superstar head coach, it’s just he’s going to become a star at A&M instead of having already been one, which is the inverse of the way that they went last time. Jimbo is announcing he’s a national championship winning head coach while Mike Elko’s resume is still yet to be written in College Station. If you know what you’re looking at in this game, I’m not sure how you’re not bullish.”

Elko will speak at SEC media days in Dallas on Thursday at 11:05 a.m.

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Josh Pate not confident in the Wisconsin Badgers ascending over the next three seasons

Josh Pate not confident in the Wisconsin Badgers over the next three seasons:

Wisconsin football was not included in national college football analyst Josh Pate’s recent ranking of the top 15 programs of the next three seasons.

His ranking listed Georgia, Alabama, Ohio State, Oregon, Texas, Florida State, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Michigan, Texas A&M, LSU, Tennessee, Miami, Clemson and Penn State. That is 15 total programs listed, four from the Big Ten.

Related: 10 developing opinions entering year two of the Luke Fickell era at Wisconsin

This future outlook was released as college football undergoes significant changes entering the 2024 season. The snapshot of the sport’s old structure may no longer apply as conferences realign and the College Football Playoff expands.

That said, it is no coincidence that this ranking nearly perfectly aligns with the team recruiting rankings for the class of 2025. The most talented teams and programs are also the ones that will experience the most on-field success.

Wisconsin’s class of 2025 currently ranks No. 16 in the nation with the cycle still ongoing. The class has a strong foundation, though is buoyed a bit by the volume of 22 commitments.

A broader view of the program and its talent composite would place it somewhere in the 25-35 range. That is changing a bit under head coach Luke Fickell, who has undeniably raised the program’s recruiting profile.

But Fickell and the Badgers will need to convert improved recruiting performance into on-field wins starting in 2024 in order to join the sport’s elite. The program is off consecutive 7-6 seasons, and has a win total of only 6.5 in 2024.

Wisconsin of 2016-2019 was arguably a top-15 program in the sport. Things have slipped since then, which is reflected in Pate’s omission of the Badgers.

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247Sports’ Josh Pate doesn’t believe there’s a gap between OU and Texas

Is there a sizable gap between the Sooners and the Longhorns? Josh Pate of 247Sports thinks there isn’t.

The Oklahoma Sooners and the Texas Longhorns are officially members of the [autotag]Southeastern Conference[/autotag]. After nearly three years of waiting, Monday marked the official move of OU and UT from the [autotag]Big 12[/autotag] to the [autotag]SEC[/autotag].

With both football programs making the move at the same time, naturally the question is posed by fans and analysts alike: Which team is ahead of the other heading to the SEC?

Most national analysts believe Texas is ahead of Oklahoma going into 2024. After all, the Longhorns are entering Year 4 under head coach [autotag]Steve Sarkisian[/autotag], while the Sooners are only in Year 3 of the [autotag]Brent Venables[/autotag] era. Both coaches inherited programs that weren’t trending in the right direction, but Sarkisian has had a year longer to build his team. Both earned contract extensions this offseason.

Texas won the [autotag]Big 12 Conference[/autotag] and made the [autotag]College Football Playoff[/autotag] in 2023, finishing 12-2. Oklahoma went 10-3, narrowly missing the conference title game and settled for a berth in the [autotag]Valero Alamo Bowl[/autotag].

One national analyst, however, doesn’t think there’s a gap between the SEC’s newest teams. 247Sports’ Josh Pate outlined both programs’ standing going into 2024 on his show “The Late Kick With Josh Pate.”

“Oklahoma is 7-3 in the last 10 against Texas. They are 11-4 in their last 15 against Texas,” Pate said. “Oklahoma’s got a 14-4 lead in conference titles since 1996, that was in the Big 12, now they’re coming to the SEC. … The last five years, Texas has averaged a ([autotag]recruiting[/autotag]) class ranked 7.4, Oklahoma’s has averaged being ranked ninth. Not a huge gap in recruiting. What about the portal, Texas has done good there, Oklahoma has done better. So they’ve got the head-to-head, they’ve got history on their side, both recently and more long-term. Recruiting has been pretty comparable, portal has been edge Oklahoma, so where in the world is the perceived gap coming from?”

Pate went on to outline three reasons Texas is seen as a step in front of OU at this stage.

“I think three things are at play. There’s bias toward Texas that I think’s undeniable,” Pate said. “No. 2, I think there’s a lot of recency bias, and what they do is they don’t think back to the [autotag]Red River Shootout[/autotag] last year. If they did that, they’d know Oklahoma won the game. More recent than that, we saw Texas make the playoff … finally Texas made some folks look smart and they love them for it. Oklahoma won double digits games last year as well and there were a couple of one-possession losses that stood between them and maybe doing a whole lot more than just a nice solid bowl game.”

But Pate’s third and final reason is the one that stands out as the most likely reason for the gap some perceive to exist.

“For some reason, the stink of Brent Venables’ first year and his record being 6-7 still lingers much more so than Sark going 5-7 his first year,” Pate said. “That was a year prior to Brent Venables’ first year, but also, Texas has a playoff appearance … whether it should or not it just washes everyone’s memory clean. Because Oklahoma had a nice year last year .. wasn’t a playoff appearance though.”

Certainly, the standard in Norman is to make the CFP once again, especially with the expansion to 12 teams. And certainly, Texas made it to where OU wanted to be last year. But, as Josh Pate suggests, the gap between the two schools isn’t nearly as big as folks in Austin and all over the country believe it to be.

In fact, there may not be a gap at all.

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247Sports’ Josh Pate trusts Oklahoma knows what it’s doing

Oklahoma came under a bit of fire with the Brent Venables’ extension, but Late Kick Show’s Josh Pate trusts the Sooners decision making.

The Oklahoma Sooners came under fire when they extended Brent Venables contract and gave him a slight salary bump. The new deal added two years to his original contract.

But many questioned why the Sooners did it. His 16-10 record in his first two seasons and 0-2 record in bowl games are facts. But the context to the facts is this team was left with very little depth after Lincoln Riley’s recruiting classes failed to live up to expectations. The fact the vast majority of the players that have transferred out during Venables tenure landed at Group of Five programs should provide enough evidence that the depth chart was not in great shape when he arrived.

And that’s how you get to 6-7 in Year 1. But it didn’t take long for Venables to make his mark with the Sooners, improving by four wins, improving the depth through the high school recruiting and transfer portal ranks, and setting the Sooners up in good position to contend for a playoff spot in Year 1 in the SEC.

But one national college football analyst isn’t concerned about the “why” to Brent Venables contract extension. He’s more focused on who’s giving it to him, citing the success of Oklahoma’s leadership to create stability within the program.

On a recent episode of the “Late Kick Show with Josh Pate,” Pate shares his trust in the Okahoma administration.

Here’s one thing I have learned about Oklahoma. I’m not questioning Oklahoma’s decision-making when it comes to coaching. I’ve got a lot of college-aged folks and high school folks who listen to this show. But forget about people that young. Let’s say you’re 25 years old. Congratulations. You made it a quarter century. You’ve also never known Oklahoma to have had coaching instability in your entire life. It’s been the previous millennium. Since the last time folks in Norman looked around and said, ‘Boy, this head coaching situations, really shaky.’ – Pate, Late Kick Show

When Lincoln Riley left at the end of 2021, it was a shock to so many, because for the first time in more than two decades, there was a question about who the head coach would be. But it didn’t take long for Oklahoma brass Joseph Harroz and Joe Castiglione to zero in on Riley’s replacement. In less than a week, the University of Oklahoma was announcing Brent Venables as the next head coach of the Sooners.

Lincoln Riley killed it there. Bob Stoops killed it there. And now the same people who were making decisions back then largely are the same people who decided not only to hire Brent Venables, and not only did they not waste any time in going to get Brent Venables. They didn’t doubt themselves. He’s also shown them enough to where they’ve decided, yep, ‘He’s our guy.’ – Pate, Late Kick Show

Harroz and Castiglione were as ecstatic as anyone when they brought Venables back to Norman. The longtime defensive coordinator had created a reputation during his time with the Sooners and Clemson for building national championship defenses, winning three titles and playing in several more national title games.

What the extension says, is that after two seasons, OU has seen enough to confirm that it indeed has its guy. And even if you’re still unsure about Venables, there’s enough evidence in the way of Big 12 and national championships in trophy cases around campus to give confidence that these guys know what they’re doing.

Or, as Pate puts it:

They’ve got the best vantage point. And their criteria is the only criteria that matters. If this were the University of Florida. If this were Tennessee, if this were a place where they’ve made some really suspect moves in the past, I wouldn’t afford them benefit of the doubt. Oh, Oklahoma has nailed it. Like almost in many of our lifetimes. Oklahoma has largely nailed it. So if there’s one place where I’m just gonna blindly assume they know what they’re doing, when it comes to hiring, it’s Oklahoma. – Pate, Late Kick Show

 

From 6-7 to 10-3. From a defense that allowed 30 points per game in 2022 to one that allowed 23.5 points per game in 2023. Venables and his staff have recruited at a top 10 level in each of the three recruiting cycles since they joined the program.

Sure, this team hasn’t played an SEC game. But Venables was brought in because of the success he had at Clemson against the SEC. Over two decades of success as a defensive coordinator made him one of the more highly-sough after assistants in college football and the Sooners got him.

Harroz and Castiglione know what they have with Venables and when you know you have something great, you invest in it.

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