Marc Ross: Drew Lock might ‘flat-out win’ Giants’ starting QB job

Former New York Giants executive Marc Ross believes Drew Lock might “flat-out win” the starting quarterback job over Daniel Jones.

After the New York Giants failed to land a new quarterback in the 2024 NFL draft, the debate immediately shifted to who would win the starting job out of training camp: Daniel Jones or Drew Lock.

The desperation to have anyone start other than Jones has clouded the minds of many, including former Giants vice president of player evaluation and director of college scouting Marc Ross.

Like many DJ detractors, Ross has convinced himself that the Giants won’t go with the former No. 6 overall pick under center. General manager Joe Schoen and head coach Brian Daboll, despite transparently hitching their wagon to Jones, must go with someone else.

“Yes, (Lock) does (have a chance to start). And I think our guy Mike Garafolo hinted at it when they said, ‘Yeah, there can be an open competition.’ And I think there really should be,” Ross said on NFL Total Access this week. “You look at the Giants’ offense last year and they played better, they scored more points and they won more games when Tyrod Taylor and Tommy Cutlets, Tommy DeVito played, as opposed to Daniel, when Daniel Jones played. It’s the combination of the injuries and the inconsistent and, at times, not very good play there.

“So there’s still a little small contingent of Giants fans holding onto Daniel Jones. But Drew Lock, I think if they give him an honest, open competition, he might just flat-out win the job, if not Day 1 then at some point during the season.”

The main problem with Ross’ commentary is that Garafolo never said there would be an open competition between Jones and Lock. In fact, the veteran reporter very specifically stated that Jones would be the team’s starter in Week 1 and would only, potentially, relinquish that job if he regressed throughout the season.

“If you get into the season and Daniel Jones isn’t playing well then perhaps (Lock) will push him,” Garafolo said. “But I want to be clear about — and what the Giants have been clear about — is that if Daniel Jones is healthy, and they do hope and expect that he’s going to be healthy (by) Week 1, he is going to be the quarterback.”

At the time of his signing, the Giants very explicitly told Lock that Jones would be the starter and he’d be serving as DJ’s backup.

“Daniel Jones is the starter of this team. That’s been conveyed to me,” Lock told reporters in March. “Now, I need to come in and push Daniel to be the best that he can be. That’s the role that I played for Geno [Smith], that’s the role I played for Teddy [Bridgewater].”

But why let facts get in the way of a good offseason narrative? Something has to fill the empty space before training camp opens.

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Former NFL exec predicts huge rookie season for Panthers’ Xavier Legette

A two-time Super Bowl-winning exec predicts Panthers first-rounder Xavier Legette will lead all rookie receivers in touchdowns and yards per catch.

We just witnessed one of the most prolific receiver classes in recent memory come off the board last weekend. But which of that group’s prospects will eventually rise above the rest in 2024?

On a new episode of NFL Total Access, former New York Giants executive and current NFL Network analyst Marc Ross made an awfully bold prediction as to which rookie wideout will do exactly that. And when we say it’s “bold,” we mean it . . .

Xavier Legette’s journey to the first round of the 2024 NFL draft was a pretty exceptional one—as he wasn’t on many, if any radars prior to this past year.

Over his first four seasons at the University of South Carolina, he totaled just 423 yards and five touchdowns on 43 receptions. He’d then have the breakout of all breakouts in 2023, reeling in 71 grabs for 1,255 yards and seven scores en route to a second-team All-SEC selection.

So, yeah, forecasting that kind of rookie campaign for a relatively raw prospect in a very raw offense is quite the statement—especially amongst the likes of Marvin Harrison Sr., Malik Nabers and Rome Odunze.

But hey, that’s why it’s bold.

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Marc Ross believes Giants could trade up for a quarterback

Marc Ross believes the New York Giants are one of three teams who could trade up for a quarterback in the 2024 NFL draft.

It is increasingly looking as if four quarterbacks could be selected in the top 5 in the 2024 NFL draft, which will take place three weeks from today.

If a team wants one of the four top signal callers (Caleb Williams, Drake Maye, J.J. McCarthy, and Jayden Daniels) they are going to have to trade up into the top 5 — and that includes the New York Giants, who hold the sixth pick.

Former Giants vice president of personnel Marc Ross, now an analyst for the NFL Network, says the Giants could be one of three teams looking to trade up for a quarterback. The other two teams mentioned are Minnesota, who hold the 11th pick, and Denver, who are at No. 12.

“If the Giants want one of the guys, they are going have to make a move,” said Ross.

“Daniel Jones — I think there’s been plenty of sample size — that he’s not the guy to get them over the hump. . . coming off the ACL, he’s been injured.

“We know Brian Daboll and Joe Schoen might be on the hot seat. Owner John Mara said at the owner’s meeting that he would give his blessing to come up and get a quarterback.

“So, you have to look at all of those factors with the Giants. ”

The Giants have been meeting with — or plan to meet with — all four of the quarterbacks expected to go high in the draft and have also met with Michael Penix Jr. of Washington.

The teams holding the first three selections (Chicago, Washington, and New England) are all expected to take quarterbacks.

The two teams at Nos. 4 and 5 — Arizona and the Los Angeles Chargers — do not need quarterbacks but are in prime position to grab one of the three top wide receivers in the draft if they choose to hold onto their selections.

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Ex-Giants VP accuses team of ‘inherent and unconscious’ racial biases

Former New York Giants VP Marc Ross says the team and many other NFL teams have “inherent and unconscious” racial biases.

The New York Giants are one of 13 NFL teams that have never hired a Black head coach. That social issue was compounded earlier this year when they passed on Brian Flores in favor of Brian Daboll.

Flores, who allegedly found out he had been passed over during a texting snafu with Bill Belichick, later filed a lawsuit against the Giants, the NFL and several other teams.

The lawsuit alleges the Giants’ interview process was a “sham” at that Flores was simply used to satisfy The Rooney Rule.

True or false, the optics of the messy hire and their lack of history with Black head coaches doesn’t reflect well for the Giants. And that’s because of their “inherent and unconscious” racial bias, says former Giants vice president of evaluation Marc Ross.

“There’s inherent and unconscious biases,” Ross told The Washington Post. “I heard that tons when I did my GM interviews: ‘We thought you were amazing. You’re outstanding. You’ll be a GM one day. We just felt comfortable with this guy.’ . . . And I think Black candidates, Black coaches just don’t get that benefit of the doubt of ‘We feel more comfortable.’ Why not? Because these owners are used to being around certain people and they’re comfortable with certain people.”

Ross wasn’t necessarily singling the Giants out, but his comments did stem from questions about co-owner John Mara, who he believes prefers white candidates over Black candidates. But in the same breath, Ross said he doesn’t believe Mara is overtly racist.

“We strongly believe that racial diversity, including among our most senior coaching and executive ranks, makes us a stronger and better organization,” said team spokesman, Pat Hanlon. “John Mara’s leadership on the NFL’s Diversity Committee is a direct reflection of the organization’s commitment to creating more diversity within the Giants organization and the league as a whole.”

The Giants may not have hired a Black coach in their history, but dating back to the days of Wellington Mara, diversity was never an issue. They signed defensive back Emlen Tunnell in 1948 and he went on to become the first Black Hall of Famer in NFL history. He also later joined the Giants’ coaching staff.

In 1976, the Giants brought in Ronnie Barnes as an athletic training intern. Four years later, he became the first Black head athletic trainer in NFL history and he remains with the team today.

Then, in 1994, the Giants hired Jerry Reese as a college scout. He became the team’s general manager 2007 and the first Black GM to ever win a Super Bowl.

Still, although they are confident in their hiring practices, Mara recognizes the lack of diversity among their head coaches throughout history.

“It’s certainly something I’m aware of,” Mara told NJ Advance Media this week. “At the end of the day, we want to get the right person. I think we have a good, diverse group of candidates right now, and will make a decision based on who we think will be the best person to lead us in the future. But it was very important that we have a diverse group of candidates.”

Given how well the Brian Daboll era has started, it’s unlikely the Giants will be thrust into a head coaching search any time soon, so questions about their past will persist.

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Marc Ross: Giants discovered Jason Pierre-Paul by accident

Marc Ross admits the New York Giants discovered Jason Pierre-Paul very much by mistake and knew he’d excel before much of the NFL world did.

Many New York Giants fans cringe when they think back to the Jerry Reese era, mainly because of the many dry drafts and dubious decisions made late in his tenure as the general manager.

A lot of those draft decisions were made by Reese’s vice president of player evaluation and director of college scouting, Marc Ross. Let’s begin by saying that Ross is responsible for the Giants drafting such players as Odell Beckham Jr., Hakeem Nicks, Landon Collins, Terrell Thomas, Evan Engram, Justin Pugh and Sterling Shepard.

One player Ross admits he lucked into is defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul, who the Giants ended up selecting with the 15th overall pick in the 2010 NFL draft.

Ross was scouting South Florida defensive lineman George Selvie when he stumbled upon a kid who was playing at another level than the other 21 players on the field. It wasn’t Selvie, who Ross believed to have recorded 16.5 sacks and 22 tackles for a loss.

“I’m watching tape and this number 90 just keeps jumping off the tape,” Ross said on WJFK’s Zach Brook’s Upon Further Review podcast on Monday. “I had to keep checking the chart. I’m supposed to be watching George Selvie, he was 95, but this 90 guy…I kept looking up and thinking ‘Damn, I must be looking at the wrong guy.’ But it was JPP.

“He had just gotten to South Florida and was kind of an unknown. He had went to junior college, a couple different junior colleges and went to South Florida.”

Ross reported back to Reese that he may have a find on his hand.

“I asked, ‘What’s up with this guy?'” Ross said. “And sure enough, he just kept getting better and better throughout the year, and they played Rutgers later in the year, and I brought our GM at the time Jerry Reese and told him ‘You gotta come see this guy.'”

By year’s end, the word was out on JPP. The Giants’ no longer had a sleeper on their hands. They had to use their first-round pick on him. Pierre-Paul had a meteoric start to his NFL career, making the Pro Bowl in 2011 and 2012 and helped lead the Giants to a Super Bowl championship.

JPP was eventually traded to Tampa Bay after several injury-laden seasons and recently earned another Pro Bowl berth and Super Bowl ring with the Buccaneers.

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Marc Ross: ‘Tough-guy image’ may backfire on Joe Judge

Marc Ross, a former member of the New York Giants, says the “tough-guy image” Joe Judge portrays will likely backfire on him.

Former New York Giants vice president of player evaluation, Marc Ross, is still throwing shade on his old organization several years after his dismissal.

Ross, now an NFL Network analyst said in a recent radio interview that the hiring of Joe Judge as the head coach over more qualified candidates (such as Kansas City offensive coordinator Eric Bieniemy) it was an “out of the blue” move by the Giants.

“When Joe Judge got hired over a guy like that, it was definitely a shock and a surprise with the limited resume that Joe Judge had,” Ross said on The Zach Gelb Show. “But I guess that’s what the Giants were trying to find in their culture, the tough-guy image that they’re trying to portray this year in the 2020 season.”

That tough guy image, says Ross, may not fly very far if the Giants don’t return to their winning ways this season. Judge has resorted to making players run laps as punishment for making mistakes in practice, a tactic his old boss in New England, Bill Belichick, was known to do.

“If you start out 0-3 and you’re still making guys run laps and you’re losing, [players will] say, ‘This is not really helping us win,’” Ross said. “These things that are kind of demeaning us and making us not about football, that’s not related to winning – that’s going to be tough to swallow for a lot of guys.”

Ross also stated that copying Belichick’s way of doing things may not work for a first-year coach who is nowhere near as established as the “one of a kind” Belichick. He also said the message might be lost on players who never had to run laps before in their young lives.

“If you lose and you’re making guys run laps and they have never done that in their life or haven’t done it since Pop Warner football,” Ross said. “That’s not going to sit well with grown men. The Giants have a lot of young players, so right now everyone is saying the right things, but if you lose the first couple games – the Giants have a very tough opening schedule.”

The Giants do have a tough schedule and a lot of internal newness to overcome before the season starts. Their first five games are against Pittsburgh, Chicago, San Francisco, the Los Angeles Rams and Dallas.

They also Dallas again, play Philadelphia twice and have games against Baltimore, Seattle, Arizona, Cleveland and Tampa Bay.

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Former Giants DE Dave Tollefson ‘not a fan’ of Jerry Reese, Marc Ross

Retired New York Giants DE Dave Tollefson admits he was “not a fan” of former GM Jerry Reese and his right-hand man, Marc Ross.

Retired defensive end Dave Tollefson helped the New York Giants win two Super Bowl titles from 2007-2012 and was a key role player in their impressive rotation of pass rushers.

Tollefson recorded 10 sacks in five seasons with Big Blue, half of them coming in 2011 when they won Super Bowl XLVI.

Unlike the coaching staff, certain members of the Giants front office did not value what Tollefson brought to the table, specifically former general manager Jerry Reese.

“I am not a big fan of Jerry. I don’t think he liked me and that’s why he signed me to five straight one-year deals. I wasn’t too upset when [Giants ownership] moved on from him,” Tollefson told Giants Wire.

However, Reese wasn’t the only one who questioned Tollefson’s worth. Vice President of Player Evaluation and Reese’s right-hand man, Marc Ross, was not on great terms with the defensive lineman, either.

“Marc used to go around telling people it was going to be easy to take my spot, which I heard from several reputable people in the building,” Tollefson said.

Ross interviewed for the Giants’ general manager job after Reese was let go, but once the team brought in current general manager Dave Gettleman, Ross was let go from the organization.

Since his firing, Ross has appeared numerous times on NFL Network to bash Gettleman, Eli Manning and the Giants organization rather than take any accountability for the disappointing draft classes both he and Reese brought in from 2008-2017.

“When they let us all go after 2011 and 2012, Jerry Reese didn’t give me close to a respectable offer after being third on the team with five sacks,” said Tollefson, who believes the team still had a chance to be playoff contenders had Reese kept the group together for another season or two.

Of course, Tollefson is referring to Reese letting go of some of the key contributors to those winning rosters including himself, Brandon Jacobs, Mario Manningham, Ahmad Bradshaw, Justin Tuck and Chris Canty, among others.

The Giants won two Super Bowls and were consistent playoff contenders from 2005-2012 going a minimum of .500 in each season. Obviously, the group was starting to age by the end of their run, but the cupboard was so bare due to their poor draft classes that they had no one to step up and replace the veterans they moved on from.

Speaking of Manning, Tollefson also expressed his displeasure about how the former regime wasted the two-time Super Bowl MVP’s prime years following Super Bowl XLVI. Tollefson feels the roster they surrounded the quarterback with from 2013-2019 was inexcusable and hurt Manning’s legacy.

The Giants are 51-77 with only one playoff appearance since winning Super Bowl XLVI. The team fired Reese and Ross in 2017 after their questionable draft classes from 2008-2017 and 2016 free agent spending spree left the team lacking depth and paying expensive veterans, who won all of three games in their final season.

The team is now on their fourth head coach since 2015 following Tom Coughlin’s 12-year run in blue.

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