Reliving LeBron James’ Decision (Day 1): Nets, Knicks get first meetings

HoopsHype goes back a decade to the summer of 2010 to relive everything that happened on July 1 related to LeBron James’ eventual decision.

As crazy as it may be to hear, LeBron James‘ now-infamous decision to leave the Cleveland Cavaliers and join the Miami Heat occurred a decade ago now, in the summer of 2010.

To celebrate that amazing-yet-shocking moment in James’ prolific career, we’re going back in time to relive everything LeBron-related that happened each day of 2010 free agency leading up to James’ announcement on July 8 – from meetings he took with teams to what news what being leaked and everything else in between – starting on July 1 when free agency opened up.

Before we jump in, however, it must be noted that prior to July 1 there was already some smoke connecting James with Miami. Two of ESPN’s top reporters at the time, Chris Broussard and Marc Stein, reported that the Heat were the frontrunners ahead of free agency to land James and that James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh had met in Miami over the weekend just before July 1 to discuss their future plans. (Some might call that potential collusion, but that’s neither here nor there.)

Wade’s agent at the time, Henry Thomas, smartly denied that rumor, but the fact that word of that meeting got out there before free agency had even started was enough to send people into a frenzy.

Broussard and Stein weren’t the only ESPN reporters saying James, Wade and Bosh would be teaming up in Miami: Stephen A. Smith actually was, reporting as early as June 28 that it would happen, days before free agency was set to begin.

Heat president Pat Riley also sounded pretty confident just ahead of July 1, calling the 2010 offseason the most pivotal in franchise history and saying that he thought Miami would be able to build a ‘great team’ over the next 18 months.

Now, let’s get into what happened on July 1 as 2010 free agency opened up.

NETS GET FIRST MEETING

James’ first meeting on the opening day of 2010 free agency took place at 11 am EST and was with the then-New Jersey Nets, a meeting the superstar forward arrived to punctually in a white Cadillac Escalade.

The Nets’ owner at the time was Mikhail Prokhorov, who showed up to the meeting a bit under 15 minutes after James and Co., and did so in a black limo with an Ohio license plate on it. Besides Prokhorov, New Jersey’s group for the meeting included then-head coach Avery Johnson as well as Nets president Rod Thorn and hip-hop mogul, Jay-Z, who used to own shares in the team.

New Jersey’s group came prepared for the presentation to James, bringing along with them a lot of luggage and a large box for a computer.

Well, all that preparation must have paid off, because the meeting went so well that anonymous executives within the Nets’ organization reportedly felt they were ‘definitely in the game’ after it had concluded. The Newark Star-Ledger reported the following after the meeting:

“For the better part of the day, you heard nothing but baseball clichés. They put it in the upper deck. They hit a grand slam. Either way, owner Mikhail Prokhorov and the five associates who accompanied him to Cleveland today came away from their historic meeting with LeBron James believing the Nets ‘are definitely in the game,’ a team official familiar with the talks revealed after conferring with several members of the team’s chief recruiters.”

The report continued, describing what exactly the Nets’ pitch to the best player in the world was:

“James purportedly found that story very compelling. He listened attentively to Prokhorov and Razumov as they explained how they will expand his profile on a global scale. He heard Thorn and Johnson share their plan for building a championship-caliber roster with a long shelf life. He was given an evocative demonstration by Yormark about how he could become not only King of Brooklyn, but of all of New York. And then, according to reporters at the scene, Jay-Z stayed behind to reinforce the Nets’ bullet points and get a feel for how his 25-year-old protégé reacted to the presentation.”

An ESPN report made New Jersey sound even more optimistic:

“After the presentation was done, Jay-Z spent some time one-on-one with ‘Bron before the Knicks arrived. How did it go? A source close to the Nets said their meeting with LeBron was ‘tremendous’. How tremendous? ‘Front runner tremendous.'”

With his first meeting out of the way, James wouldn’t have to go far to meet with his next potential free-agent suitor.

Jim D’Amico, President and CEO of Apollo Group University of Phoenix, Greg Cappelli, Co CEO of Apollo Group University od Phoenix, LeBron James and ESPN’s Jim Gray attend the LeBron James Pre Decision Meet and Greet on July 8, 2010 in Greenwich, Connecticut. Proceeds from tonight’s 2.5 million dollar event will be donated to the Boys & Girls Clubs of America. (Larry Busacca/Getty Images for Estabrook Group)

KNICKS ARE NEXT

At 1 pm EST came James’ meeting with the New York Knicks, one that started with a video presentation from Tony and Carmela Soprano, played by James Gandolfini and Edie Falco, trying to convince James that Madison Square Garden was the place for him to take the next step in his career.

The Knicks knew James was a huge fan of the classic TV show The Sopranos, so they pulled some strings to get the show’s two main characters to be a part of their video pitch. The video also contained appearances from Willis Reed, Mark Messier, Reggie Jackson, Earl Monroe, Spike Lee, Rudy Giuliani and even Chris Rock.

Apart from the creative video editing, the Knicks’ meeting with James featured Mike D’Antoni, Allan Houston, Donnie Walsh and James Dolan. The fact that James could earn a billion dollars playing in a market as huge as New York City for one of the most well-known NBA teams in the world was their main selling point. They reportedly did their best to put James in a New York state of mind.

One well-known person in league circles didn’t totally agree with that pitch, however. Former NBA super agent David Falk, best known for representing Michael Jordan during his playing days, nailed it when he said in a radio spot that day that the market advantage the Knicks believed they had in the LeBron sweepstakes didn’t really exist because it was no longer 1996, and as big as New York is, social media had made it so that James could have played anywhere – even Neptune, Falk said – and still be a major brand.

Falk was absolutely right, and we’re still seeing it now, a decade later, where New York continues to struggle to land marquee free agents despite the awesome market they reside in.

James’ meeting with New York lasted 2.5 hours, and the Knicks reportedly felt good about how it went. D’Antoni told The New York Times that the team was ‘cautiously optimistic’ about their chances.

After their meetings with James, both the Knicks and Nets reportedly headed to Chicago for meetings with Wade and Bosh which were set to take place the next day, on Friday, July 2.

THE HEAT CONTINGENT PREPARES

The Heat weren’t set to meet with James until the next day, but that doesn’t mean they sat idly by one Day 1 of free agency.

They used the opening day of free-agent meetings to get a face-to-face between team president Pat Riley and Amare Stoudemire, who was one of the top players available that summer. According to one report from ESPN, Riley was pitching Stoudemire on the idea of teaming up with James and Wade in Miami, which gives us an interesting what-if regarding that offseason: What if Stoudemire was the third member of Miami’s eventual Big Three, and not Bosh? Does that change how the next four seasons go for the Heat?

Something interesting that not many remember from that first day of free agency in 2010 is that a contingent from Miami also gained an audience with James’ agent at the time, Leon Rose, a meeting that took place in Cleveland and included Riley, Heat owner Micky Arison and general manager Andy Elisburg. The meeting reportedly lasted 45 minutes, ending just before 12:30 am.

Even despite the Heat getting a meeting with an important member of James’ team the night before their actual meeting with the MVP forward, indicating there was real smoke to the fire connecting James and Miami, an anonymous veteran coach in the Eastern Conference told Yahoo the following:

“LeBron going to Miami doesn’t make sense when you really think about it,” said a veteran NBA coach in the Eastern Conference Thursday. “You think LeBron is going to be happy being viewed as Robin to Dwyane Wade’s Batman? And that’s how it would look. It’s not happening.”

Just the possibility of James and Wade, two of the best players in the world at that point in time, teaming up was still so hard to believe for many people, even with all the signs pointing to there being a very real chance of that happening.

Another interesting Heat-related tidbit on July 1?

The Miami Herald reported that Ray Allen had spoken to James about the possibility of joining the Heat:

“I’ve come across a source who has told me that free agent player could be Ray Allen. The source tells me that Allen has spoken to James and his preference is to remain with the Celtics, but that’s predicated on Paul Pierce remaining with the team. The money is not a huge factor. Winning more championships is the most important factor. According to the source, Allen has spoken to James and would consider joining said, ‘Dream Team.’ Along with possibly taking less money if it was the perfect opportunity.”

This was two summers before Allen would end up joining James in Miami, though it now seems possible that those seeds were planted way back in 2010.

ON CLEVELAND AND LEBRON

On July 1, the Cavaliers announced that Bryon Scott would be their next head coach (though the news leaked the night before) replacing Mike Brown after five years on the job. The final two candidates for the job were Scott and Brian Shaw, and James reportedly preferred the former as the hire, which surely played into the final decision for Cleveland.

The New York Daily News reported that since Scott was pursuing the job, that must have surely meant James was planning on staying in Cleveland, an assumption that turned out to be quite wrong.

Veteran swingman Matt Barnes, for his part, didn’t believe that James would ditch the Cavs, comparing it to Larry Bird and Magic Johnson being one-team players their entire careers:

“Those top guys may talk to each other about teaming up but realistically, I don’t see some sort of ‘Dream Team’ being made. I could definitely be wrong but I kind of see LeBron being the caliber of player like a Magic Johnson or Larry Bird where regardless of how his original team is doing, he’s going to stick it out and make them a winner. That’s why I don’t see LeBron jumping but I could be wrong. Everybody else is just waiting to see what he does. There’s a lot of rumors, a lot of this and a lot of that, but they’re just rumors. Until you hear a team say something like that or a general manager say something like that, then it’s just rumors.”

Barnes had and still has a lot of friends in the league, so for even him to be so blindsided by James eventually heading to Miami just goes to show how shocking the news really was.

On July 1, however, there was legitimately still some hope that James might decide to stay with the Cavs, to the point that a group of fans organized a rally at a local bar in Cleveland called ‘Please Stay LBJ’, and it was pretty official seeing as how the Cavaliers’ team dancers showed up.

Cavs owner Dan Gilbert was undoubtedly hoping James would decide to stay, and not just so Cleveland could keep fielding an elite basketball team, but also because, according to Bloomberg, the Cavaliers could lose $250 million in value if they lost their best – and most marketable – player.

Things didn’t get quite that dire, but at the start of the 2009-10 seasonForbes calculated the Cavaliers’ franchise value at $476 million, making them the fifth-most valuable organization at that time. One season  (and one LeBron departure) later, that number dropped all the way down to $355 million, putting Cleveland at the No. 15 spot that year.

ELSEWHERE THAT DAY

The Los Angeles Clippers happily announced through ESPN that they were one of the teams selected to be granted an audience by James for a free-agent meeting.

Then-Clippers general manager Neil Olshey (now with the Portland Trail Blazers) said:

“‘We are honored to be one of the select organizations to have been invited to meet with LeBron James and his team. At that time, we intend to present the many reasons why his joining our organization is the best possible choice he could make. Key among those reasons is our extraordinary nucleus of players. We have a core group in place which is made up of talented players at every position, a component which would prove attractive to any free agent.'”

This was pretty surprising and a meeting that James likely took as a courtesy, because the Clippers were coming off of a 2009-10 season in which they went 29-53 and were led in scoring by Chris Kaman. The fact that Blake Griffin was set to debut the very next season might have made them more appealing, but even so, Los Angeles was still a full two seasons away from the ‘Lob City’ era that was to come.

Regardless, the Clippers landing that meeting with James was a pretty huge deal and could be seen as the start of the franchise turning things around towards no longer being a perennial laughingstock.

Interestingly enough, despite all the talk about Miami, Cleveland and the two New York clubs, the betting favorites to land James on July 1 were actually the Chicago Bulls. Considering how spot-on Vegas usually is with that kind of thing, that’s pretty odd they were that far off as free agency kicked into full swing.

In Chicago, the Chicago Sun-Times would report that James had been telling teams he met with on Day 1 that he didn’t want to drag out the decision process and that he wanted to have one made by Monday, July 5.

Little did we know, ‘The Decision’ itself wouldn’t come for another full week…

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Three New Orleans Pelicans players test positive for COVID-19

As part of the initial wave of testing conducted by the NBA, Pelicans general manager David Griffin revealed three players tested positive.

In a media conference call on Tuesday, New Orleans Pelicans general manager David Griffin revealed that three players tested positive for COVID-19. The positive tests came last week upon the players’ return to New Orleans and were apart of the 16 positive tests the NBA announced in its initial testing.

The news of the Pelicans’ positive tests comes the same day multiple other franchises have seen spikes in positive tests in recent days. Positive tests from DeAndre Jordan and Spencer Dinwiddie led to the Brooklyn Nets closing their facilities in past days. Tuesday marked the first day their facility opened back up.

In Denver, the Nuggets franchise began that same cycle as they were forced to close down their facility due to a series of positive tests. Those positive tests also don’t include that of All-Star big man Nikola Jokic, who is still in Serbia after testing positive himself.

The Sacramento Kings have also had a series of positive tests amongst players over the last week, including Buddy Hield and Jabari Parker.

Despite the string of positive league across multiple franchises, the league still intends on moving forward with its restart plan, which is set to begin in late July in Orlando.

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Wilson Chandler explains why he’s sitting out when NBA season resumes

Brooklyn Nets forward Wilson Chandler has decided not to play when the NBA season resumes in July. He explains why he’s choosing to sit out.

Brooklyn Nets forward Wilson Chandler recently announced that he will be sitting out rather than suiting up for the Orlando games.

Chandler explained why he won’t be playing next month when he appeared as a guest on The Court Vision podcast with Jameer Nelson and Ben Stinar.

“For me, personally, I think like the unknown of this whole COVID thing and just having a grandmother who’s 87 – she just turned 87 – and battling all types of illnesses and having young kids, I think it’s more important for me to be at home with my family and taking care of my family,” Chandler said. “So, that’s my biggest [reason] to stay home.

“And then if you throw in the whole social justice [aspect] and everything that’s going on over police brutality with the government and all that, I mean, it just makes it a bit more difficult.”

Like Chandler, a number of NBA players have opted out of playing because they wanted to spend time with their family (including Los Angeles Lakers guard Avery Bradley, Portland Trail Blazers forward Trevor Ariza and Dallas Mavericks center Willie Cauley-Stein).

However, there’s a social-reform component to Chandler’s decision too. Some players believe that resuming play will distract from the Black Lives Matter movement, while others believe that they should play and take advantage of that huge platform. Chandler noted that there’s no wrong answer when discussing the best way to effect change.

“There’s no right or wrong way,” Chandler said. “Everybody has their own opinion on what’s going on and what they would do, so there’s no right or wrong answer. So, I respect everybody who’s going [to Orlando] and everybody who’s not going.

“We’ve always had different types of leaders in sports. You had guys who were overly talkative, who spoke their mind whenever, like Muhammad Ali, who didn’t go to Vietnam and fight in the war and decided to sit out and that spoke volumes. And you got guys who play by the rules and who go out there and play, but they’re going to use their platform before and after the games when they’re doing interviews and stuff. So, it’s kind of up to each player to kind of use their platform how they see fit.”

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Chandler is currently in Brooklyn and he was going through the necessary steps to play next month before ultimately changing his mind.

“I was working out with the team and going through that whole protocol that the NBA has mandated, testing every other day and doing one-on-one workouts,” Chandler said. “But since I just announced the news that I wouldn’t be going to Orlando, now I’m about to stay home and be with my family.”

In addition to Chandler, Brooklyn will be without guard Kyrie Irving, forward Kevin Durant and center DeAndre Jordan in Orlando. Irving and Durant are recovering from injuries and Jordan tested positive for COVID-19 recently. Guard Spencer Dinwiddie has also tested positive for COVID-19, putting his availability in question too.

The Nets are currently 30-34, which is the seventh-best record in the Eastern Conference.

This season, Chandler averaged 5.9 points, 4.1 rebounds and 1.1 threes on 40.4/30.6/87.0 shooting splits in 35 games. Earlier this season, he was suspended for 25 games after testing positive for a growth hormone stimulant.

Report: Nets will sign Justin Anderson to replace Wilson Chandler

Justin Anderson is back with the Brooklyn Nets after having a 10-day contract with the franchise in January.

The Brooklyn Nets have quickly found a player to substitute for Wilson Chandler at Disney World in Florida.

According to ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski, Justin Anderson will sign with the Nets.

Anderson played three games with Brooklyn this season on a 10-day contract before he was released in January. The Nets then brought him back in a trade to play for their G League affiliate, the Long Island Nets.

The move to sign Anderson comes after Wilson Chandler said he was “opting out of playing” in the Orlando restart, according to ESPN’s Malika Andrews. Chandler cited the importance of his family’s health as the reason for not participating in the NBA’s resumption of the 2019-20 season.

In three games with Brooklyn, Anderson averaged 1.0 points per game and 5.7 minutes of play. He shot 2.0 field goal attempts a game and shot 16.7% from the field.

Anderson played 31 games during his time with Long Island this season, scoring 20.6 points per game and shooting 47.9% from the field. He also grabbed 6.6 rebounds a game and shot 35.4% from the 3-point line.

Anderson played some of his best basketball during his runs with the Philadelphia 76ers and Dallas Mavericks. During the 2016-17 season, he started with Dallas and was traded to Philly in February of 2017.

He averaged a career-high 7.1 points per game in 75 total games that season and grabbed a career-high 3.3 rebounds a game. He also shot 42.4% from the field.

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Spread set on Nets’ first Disney matchup, East title odds

The Brooklyn Nets will face the Orlando Magic first when they head to Disney World at the end of July to resume the 2019-20 NBA season.

As the NBA gets set to resume the 2019-20 season at Disney World in Florida, sportsbooks have prepared the odds on who will win the Eastern and Western Conference titles and the NBA Finals, as well as spreads on games from the first three days of play.

The Brooklyn Nets were given much better odds to win the NBA title than the Washington Wizards (1000/1) and Orlando Magic (250/1) by BetOnline. The sportsbook also thinks Brooklyn (60/1) has a better chance to earn the title than the Indiana Pacers (100/1), but the Nets remain longshots.

As for winning the Eastern Conference Finals, the Nets were given 25/1 odds, trailing five other teams.

BetOnline has the Los Angeles Lakers (5/4) and Milwaukee Bucks (5/9) as the favorites to come out of the West and East, respectively. As for winning the NBA Finals, the Lakers (9/4) have a slight edge over the Bucks (3/1).

When it comes to the spread in Brooklyn’s first game — which is against the Magic — BetOnline is giving a slight edge to Orlando (-2).

Who are the top GOAT candidates among active NBA players?

We rank active NBA players based on where we think they’ll place in the GOAT debate by the time their careers end.

The GOAT debate is one that rages on in every sport, but especially in the NBA, where one player can be excellent enough to propel his organization to previously unreached heights.

Because we still have a bit of a way to go until the NBA season resumes, we decided to take a look at the Association’s GOAT debate and rank active players based on where we think they’ll place in Greatest-of-All-Time rankings by the time their careers are over, according to our projections.

Just to be clear, potential is important here, to be sure, but so is realized production.

Let’s get right to it.

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15. TRAE YOUNG
Career stats: 23.6 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 8.6 apg, 1.1 spg, 42.8 FG%

Only five players in league history have posted averages over 29 points and nine assists per game in a single season as Trae Young did in 2019-20. And none of them did it in their age-21 season like Young was able to accomplish.

The other four players to have done accomplished that statistic include two former MVP guards who will show up on our list a bit later and two Hall-of-Famers in Oscar Robertson and Tiny Archibald, and none of them possess the audacious range Young has on his outside jumper.

That’s all to say that although Young may have warts in his game (namely, his atrocious defense), the level of production he has been able to reach so quickly in his career is downright insane, puts him in absolutely elite company and has him on a scary trajectory. As long as the Atlanta Hawks continue to wisely build around him, they might be able to create a monster of a team centered around their All-Star point guard.

14. DWIGHT HOWARD
Career stats: 16.8 ppg, 12.3 rpg, 1.4 apg, 1.9 bpg, 58.6 FG%

Despite how the last few years of his career have unfolded, failing under unfairly high expectations in his first stint with the Los Angeles Lakers, struggling to acclimate to playing with another superstar 2-guard with the Houston Rockets and then not making much of an impact on four teams over his last four seasons, Dwight Howard still has a ridiculous resume – one that should one day grant him a spot in the Hall of Fame.

Howard has eight All-Star appearances under his belt, five 1st Team All-NBAs, three Defensive Player of the Year awards and four 1st Team All-Defenses. He also led the Orlando Magic all the way to the 2009 Finals on a team where the second-leading scorer was Rashard Lewis, who was averaging 7.8 points per game three years later.

There was a relatively long stretch of time in the late 2000s where Howard was arguably the best center in the NBA, a dominant force on the defensive end and the glass who could still put up 20 points nightly despite possessing a limited arsenal in the post. And had the last few years of his career not gone so poorly (his numbers haven’t been bad, but he was reportedly a nuisance in the locker room and his teams didn’t do much winning), people would remember that more part of his career more fondly.

13. CARMELO ANTHONY
Career stats: 23.6 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 2.9 apg, 1.0 spg, 44.8 FG%

There have been questions about Carmelo Anthony’s impact on winning throughout his career. Even so, Anthony is one of the smoothest bucket-getters the sport has ever seen, capable of filling it up from all over the floor, from beyond the three-point line to facing up opponents in the mid-range to backing them down in the paint.

Melo’s coveted jab step move may have become a meme, but there’s no denying how deadly it was in his prime when opponents were terrified of letting him blow by them while simultaneously trying to be in position to contest his knockdown jumper.

Anthony currently ranks 17th in league history in scoring with 26,314 career points and has a solid chance of passing No. 16 John Havlicek and No. 15 Paul Pierce this season, if games do resume, who are 81 and 83 points ahead of him on the list respectively.

12. RUSSELL WESTBROOK
Career stats: 23.2 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 8.3 apg, 1.8 spg, 43.7 FG%

Rockets guard Russell Westbrook made history in 2016-17 by becoming the first player since Robertson to average a triple-double for an entire season… and he followed that up by doing it again the two seasons after that.

Westbrook has led the league in scoring twice and in assists twice, he earned league MVP honors in 2016-17, he’s a nine-time All-Star and he’s been named to 1st Team All-NBA twice.

And though his style may not be perfect (he’s a poor three-point shooter but still jacks up nearly four of them a night for his career, his defensive effort can wane at times and his extremely ball-dominant style can make it difficult for his teams to get far in the playoffs), Westbrook is still one of the most exciting players in recent league history and he plays with a ton of passion, something he should be commended for.

Plus, he helped take the Oklahoma City Thunder to the Finals before, and his teams usually range from good to great, so it’s not like he’s a complete detriment to winning, either.

11. DAMIAN LILLARD
Career stats: 24.0 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 6.5 apg, 1.0 spg, 43.6 FG%

One of the most explosive scorers in recent history, Damian Lillard hasn’t even gotten to his age-30 season yet, and even so, he’s got more ridiculous playoff highlights than most players produce in their entire careers.

The Weber State legend has yet to reach a Finals (his prime coming at the same time as the Golden State Warriors’ peak didn’t help matters), but there’s still no doubting his ability to produce in the postseason, where he’s averaging nearly 25 points and six assists for his career.

Lillard has one 1st Team All-NBA to his name and has been an All-Star five times, and with the style of play he has, one predicated upon craftiness as a ball-handler and a deep outside jumper, it’s clear that he won’t be slowing down soon, giving him plenty of time to find even more individual and team success.

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10. ZION WILLIAMSON
Career stats: 23.6 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 2.2 apg, 0.8 spg, 46.2 3PT%

An argument could be made that we have Zion Williamson ranked either too low or too high at No. 10. For starters, the sample size for his career still hasn’t even reached 20 games, we don’t know how he’ll perform in playoff-level intensity and he’s only shot 13 threes so far, so we have no idea how effective of an outside shooter he is.

At the same time, however, the glimpses we have seen so far of Williamson are undoubtedly special, as his blend of explosive athleticism in a body built like an All-Pro NFL tight end with solid ball-handling and playmaking skills to boot gives him a package we have very seldom seen in NBA history.

And though his raw statistics are impressive, the most important thing to note about Williamson is that that they’re far from empty; with him on the floor, the New Orleans Pelicans are 13.6 points per 100 possessions better than when he’s sitting on the bench.

We still need to see more of Williamson to get a better read on his upside, but if the first 19 games of his career are any indication, we’re looking at a special player – and one that could possibly make his ranking on this list look bad.

9. CHRIS PAUL
Career stats: 18.5 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 9.5 apg, 2.2 spg, 47.0 FG%

Say what you want about Chris Paul’s referee-related antics on the court, but there’s no doubt the floor general is one of the best point guards the NBA has ever seen, and if he’d had better luck in the playoffs, he’d probably place higher when people rank the greatest point guards of all time.

On top of his 10 All-Star appearances, four 1st Team All-NBAs and seven 1st Team All-Defenses, Paul has led the league in assists four separate times and in steals six times. In NBA history, Paul sits seventh in all-time dimes and seventh in career steals, with a great shot at finishing much higher up as he continues to pour in statistics over his upcoming final few seasons.

Even more impressive? Paul ranks third in career Box Plus/Minus (BPM), a fairly well-regarded advanced metric, just ahead of Magic Johnson and trailing only Michael Jordan and the player coming up at No. 1 on this list.

Add a title or two to Paul’s resume and he’d be discussed more frequently as an all-time great. Even without a ring, though, he deserves more credit for the outstanding career he’s had thus far.

8. ANTHONY DAVIS
Career stats: 24.0 ppg, 10.4 rpg, 2.2 apg, 2.4 bpg, 51.7 FG%

Like Paul, Anthony Davis would likely place higher on this list had his teams found more postseason success, though there are a couple of key distinctions there.

For one, at least Paul has made it to one Western Conference Finals in his career while Davis, on the other hand, has never gotten past the second round of the playoffs. Furthermore, Davis is still in the early stages in his prime, giving him plenty of time to find postseason success now as a Laker.

Arriving in the NBA with a lot of hype and mountains of upside, Davis has more than lived up to his potential first as a Pelican and now in Los Angeles, blending monstrous rim protection with astoundingly tidy scoring on the offensive end, even despite being a career 31.9 percent three-point shooter.

Davis, to this point, is a seven-time All-Star and a three-time 1st Team All-NBAer, with the opportunity to rack up a ton more accolades before he eventually calls it quits. More intriguing than that, however, will be seeing what kind of team success Davis will be able to find now as a Laker and teamed up with the top player on this list.

7. LUKA DONCIC
Career stats: 24.4 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 7.1 apg, 1.1 spg, 44.3 FG%

Slovenian star Luka Doncic has absolutely hit the ground running since getting drafted by the Dallas Mavericks, averaging 28.7 points, 9.3 rebounds and 8.7 assists in his age-20 season and helping bring the Mavericks back to relevancy after a few down seasons.

Doncic is as well-rounded of a wing as they come, able to drop 30 on any given night, rebound the basketball at a high level and set up teammates for easy looks consistently. Truth be told, there are some elements of LeBron James to his game, just without the freakish athleticism, which the Mavs stud doesn’t quite possess; Doncic does his damage closer to ground level than James did early on in his career.

Even so, if you were tasked with building a top team of the future and given the top overall pick, Doncic would receive heavy consideration to be taken No. 1 overall, and his scary upside has Dallas eyeing big things over the years to come.

6. JAMES HARDEN
Career stats: 25.1 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 6.3 apg, 1.6 spg, 44.2 FG%

If there’s one player who has that whole scoring aspect of basketball figured out, it’s James Harden.

Since joining the Rockets in 2012-13, the bearded 2-guard is averaging an astonishing 29.6 points per game, which is two points more than the next closest player’s scoring average over that eight-season stretch, and leads the league in total points scored with 17,928.

What’s more, Harden is also putting up 7.7 assists and 1.8 steals nightly over those eight years, proving that he’s doing more than just scoring for Houston.

For what it’s worth, another Rockets legend had extremely high praise for Harden recently, too:

Now, there is one negative that has to be discussed with Harden, and that’s his lack of playoff success. Harden’s had memorable meltdowns in the postseason before, and his Rockets haven’t been able to reach the Finals with him at the helm, though they did come close twice, reaching the Western Conference Finals in 2014-15 and 2017-18.

Harden will have to prove it at the highest level come playoff time before he retires in order to rank higher on lists like these, but even if he doesn’t, he’ll still go down as one of the greatest shooting guards in league history and a surefire first-ballot Hall-of-Famer when it’s all said and done.

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5. KAWHI LEONARD
Career stats: 18.6 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 2.7 apg, 1.8 spg, 49.1 FG%

He may not have a league MVP trophy on his resume (yet, at least), but Kawhi Leonard has been named Finals MVP twice, first in 2014 and then in 2019, to go with two Defensive Player of the Year awards and four All-Star appearances.

Leonard’s numbers may not stand out quite as much as some of these players on this list, but his development from a 3-and-D wing to a player who can fill it up from all over the floor while also playing lockdown defense has been nothing short of special to witness. Over his last five seasons, Leonard is putting up 24.5 points, 6.7 rebounds and 3.5 assists per game on 48.8/38.7/87.3 shooting splits, numbers that speak well of how well-rounded Leonard’s game has become.

Leonard’s legacy received a serious boost in 2018-19 when – in his lone year with the Toronto Raptors – he led his team to an unexpected championship and performed like the best player in that season’s playoffs. In 24 games that postseason, Leonard put up 30.5 points and 9.1 rebounds per contest, and, more memorably, hit an unforgettable series-ending game-winner in Game 7 of the second round against the Philadelphia 76ers.

What’s more, it must also be noted that Leonard accomplished all of that the year after he missed basically a whole season due to injury troubles, among other issues with the San Antonio Spurs.

Now fully healthy and having his workload properly managed by the Los Angeles Clippers, Leonard will only continue to rack up accolades and awards for his high level of play, which doesn’t look like it’ll be dropping off any time soon.

4. STEPHEN CURRY
Career stats: 23.5 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 6.6 apg, 1.7 spg, 47.6 FG%

The greatest shooter basketball has ever seen and arguably someone who might have changed the way the sport is played forever, Stephen Curry transformed from a fun, oft-injured player for the Warriors early on in his career into a legitimate superstar once his injury troubles subsided and his defense improved a tick.

Thanks to Curry, the notion that three-point-centric attacks could never lead to championships, which was the common belief not a long time ago, went away. Now, for the most part, if a player can’t shoot from the outside, he’ll struggle to see playing time, no matter what position he plays.

That’s how Curry and Golden State were able to revolutionize basketball.

Curry ranks third all-time in three-pointers made (and will, barring disaster, finish at No. 1 by a long shot), has won three championships and two league MVP awards, one of which was the first and only unanimous of all time, and has been 1st Team All-NBA three times.

3. KEVIN DURANT
Career stats: 27.0 ppg, 7.1 rpg, 4.1 apg, 1.1 spg, 49.3 FG%

One of the smoothest scorers in league history, someone able to get buckets from all over the floor and does so in a 7-foot package, Kevin Durant makes the impossible look easy on the court.

To be that tall and long while still possessing that quickness, craftiness and agility with the ball in your hands is nearly impossible, yet Durant can do it all, and then some.

Durant has led the league in scoring four times, won league MVP in 2013-14 and six 1st Team All-NBAs under his belt to go with 10 All-Star appearances. He was able to reach the top of the mountain, too, twice as a member of the Warriors, both of which he took Finals MVP home for, which nudges him ahead of Curry on a lot of people’s all-time lists.

Now, the tricky question as far as Durant’s resume remains: Had he remained with the Oklahoma City Thunder and won two titles rather than joining a loaded Golden State squad to do so, would his legacy look different?

The answer to that is almost certainly yes, which is a shame, considering how close the Thunder came to a title in 2011-12, and to reaching the Finals in 2015-16, where they have had another good shot at winning a championship.

Now, it still feels like Durant has something left to prove. Luckily, he has time to do so now as a member of the Brooklyn Nets.

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2. GIANNIS ANTETOKOUNMPO
Career stats: 20.0 ppg, 8.9 rpg, 4.3 apg, 1.3 bpg, 52.5 FG%

Milwaukee Bucks wing Giannis Antetokounmpo, one of the most explosive two-way forces in NBA history, already has one MVP to his name and was one of the two favorites to win the award again this season before play screeched to a halt.

The Greek Freak, despite his struggles as an outside shooter, can do just about anything on a basketball court, from locking down opposing point guards (or centers) to running a fast break to protecting the rim, and pretty much everything else in between.

Antetokounmpo’s numbers this season – 29.6 points, 13.7 rebounds and 5.8 assists nightly – are out of this world, and can only be matched by two other players ever: Wilt Chamberlain and Elgin Baylor. His numbers were also extremely impactful, as Antetokounmpo’s Bucks were easily this campaign’s best team by net rating (+10.7).

The scariest part about Antetokounmpo’s legacy, however, is the fact he’s still just 25 years old and appears to remain on an upward trajectory career-wise, meaning there’s a shot the near-7-foot forward continues to improve over the season to come.

That’s probably the biggest reason why he ranked so high on this list.

1. LEBRON JAMES
Career stats: 27.1 ppg, 7.4 rpg, 7.4 apg, 1.6 spg, 50.4 FG%

If we were to rank every player in league history based on their GOAT status, LeBron James would finish either at the top of the list or very close to it, so ranking just active players meant James finished No. 1 – pretty easily, at that.

Already, James ranks Top 10 all-time in two statistics – in points with 34,087 and in assists with 9,298 – and he’s got a good shot to finish in the top spot in at least one of those metrics. Even more impressive than that is that he’s the only player in NBA history to place within the Top 10 in both of those statistics.

Scoring isn’t even considered to be the best aspect of James’ game, and he’s still able to pour in points at a much higher, and more efficient, rate than most other players to have ever graced the hardwood.

James’ longevity has been absolutely insane, as even at 35, he’s still showing little signs of slowing down. He’s got more 1st Team All-NBA appearances (12) than any other player ever. And he’s been voted into 16 All-Star games in a row.

And sure, James’ legacy may take a bit of a hit due to his 3-6 record in the Finals, but even in the championship series he lost, James was almost always the top statistical player, proving his excellence even on the biggest stages.

That’s all to say: LeBron makes a solid case to be considered the NBA’s GOAT, and not just among active players.

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Kyrie Irving wouldn’t be the first player to suggest players form their own league

Kyrie Irving isn’t the first player in recent history to suggest that NBA players could start their own league. Amare Stoudemire did so too.

Brooklyn Nets All-Star guard Kyrie Irving recently made waves when it was reported that he had suggested to teammates that the players could start their own basketball league as part of his efforts to get more NBA guys to skip out on the league’s planned season resumption for late July.

The report came courtesy of Stefan Bondy of the New York Daily News, who wrote:

“Irving’s push to skip the bubble has spawned a debate over whether NBA players could effectively influence social reform while playing, or whether they’d have to boycott to force meaningful change. Irving not only led a discussion with close to 100 union members in a conference call, he also urged Nets players to skip the bubble recently in a separate group chat, the Daily News has learned. In that chat, Irving proposed that players could start their own league, according to a source.”

As audacious as that may sound, Irving surprisingly isn’t the first person to suggest NBA players start their own league, as former Phoenix Suns and New York Knicks star Amare Stoudemire did the same back in 2011 when the league was in the midst of a heated lockout that would go on to last until Christmas of that year.

And Stoudemire actually went public with his idea, unlike Irving, who has yet to openly confirm nor deny how serious he is about what he told teammates. Stoudemire told a group of reporters the following:

“With his entrepreneurial spirit running at top speed, Stoudemire also divulged his latest brain-storming efforts: a new basketball league. ‘If we don’t go to Europe then let’s to start our own league,’ Stoudemire told a group of reporters. ‘That’s how I see it. It’s very serious. Yeah. It’s very, very serious. Its a matter of us coming up with a plan, blueprint and putting it together. So we’ll see how this lockout goes. If it goes one or two years, then we got to start our own league.'”

Stoudemire wasn’t done, either. He continued:

“‘If it don’t resolve then we’re thinking about starting our own league,’ he continued. ‘Obviously we’re trying to get things started now as far as, you know, getting the lockout resolved. You know what I mean? We want to play NBA basketball. But if it doesn’t happen, what are we going to do? We can’t just sit around and not do anything.'”

After those initial quotes, there was no follow-up with Stoudemire on the players forming their own league, though as you may remember, that fall, NBA players organized various pickup games featuring some of the league’s biggest names that fans were able to pay to stream and watch from home.

Regardless, no more talk came of players forming their own league, and Charles Barkley notably called Stoudemire’s idea “one of the stupidest things [he’s] ever heard”.

At the end of the day, Irving standing up for what he believes in is commendable, but the idea of players getting out of their current contracts, finding financial backers, landing TV deals and doing all the other work that would be required in order to start a new basketball league to compete with the billion-dollar-plus NBA is the longest of long shots, and not all that credible of a threat.

Now, if players want to pass on heading to the Orlando bubble in order to pursue activism or because they don’t feel it’s safe, that’s one thing. But them banding together to form their own league almost certainly isn’t going to happen.

NBA graphic designer creates Disney-inspired Nets uniform

After giving the Nets and other NBA teams superhero-themed uniform ideas, an NBA graphic designer has concocted another set of designs.

Earlier in the NBA’s hiatus, Mikey Hamlin, a graphic designer who has worked with the league, designed some superhero-inspired uniforms, pulling from the Marvel and DC universes.

Hamlin mashed up the Brooklyn Nets’ black and white look with Marvel’s popular anti-hero and longtime Spider-Man villain, Venom. (Oddly enough, Hamlin’s design for the New York Knicks was a major character from Spider-Man’s world: Carnage.)

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Hamlin, known as srelix on Instagram, has designed another set of uniforms that once again merges the NBA with the entertainment industry. These designs are Disney-themed — appropriate given the league’s plan to resume at the company’s Orlando theme park.

This time, the Nets got a 101 Dalmations look:

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Report: Mike Dunleavy Jr. in running for Pistons assistant GM position

Mike Dunleavy Jr. could be leaving the Bay Area to take the Detroit Pistons assistant general manager job.

The Golden State Warriors may have one of their front office members leave for another team in the near future.

According to Ian Begley of SNY, Warriors assistant general manager Mike Dunleavy Jr. is in the running for the Detroit Pistons assistant general manager position. Along with Dunleavy, Brooklyn Nets director of player personnel J.R. Holden is also being considered for the assistant general manager job.

Dunleavy, the son of former NBA coach Mike Dunleavy Sr., has been in his position with Golden State since last August. He began working with the team as a scout during 2018, per Begley.

The Pistons are also looking for a new general manager, with Oklahoma City Thunder vice president of basketball operations Troy Weaver and Nets assistant general manager Jeff Peterson being the top candidates, according to Begley.

The Pistons are headed toward a rebuild, with former franchise cornerstone Andre Drummond being dealt to the Cleveland Cavaliers during February’s trade deadline. Though Blake Griffin is still there, he is under contract for next season and has a player option of approximately $39 million for the 2021-22 season, per HoopsHype.

Griffin, who missed most of this season due to a lingering knee injury, recently told ESPN’s Sage Steele that he is healthy. If the Pistons were to deal Griffin in a trade, he’d have to rebuild his reputation as a valuable player. Teams would want to see if he can still produce at a relatively high level before taking on his hefty contract.

Still, any front office member headed to Detroit will have some work to do. The Pistons finished the 2019-20 season with a record of 20-46. They currently have a 10.5% chance at the first pick in the 2020 NBA draft, according to Tankathon. Their highest pick odds are at seventh overall, with a 26.7% chance.

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Members of Nets front office could be on the move soon

The Brooklyn Nets could lose one, possibly two members of their front office in the offseason to higher-ranking jobs with other teams.

NBA coaching staffs and front offices don’t change as dramatically as rosters seem to from season to season, but it’s not of the ordinary for a move to occur each year.

And it’s certainly not atypical for a minor change or two in one organization to be the result of another franchise going through somewhat of an overhaul. This upcoming offseason, the Detroit Pistons are a team looking to move in a different direction — they’ve decided to go back to having a general manager instead of two assistant general managers.

As a result, the Brooklyn Nets front office could be impacted, with Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN reporting Nets assistant general manager Jeff Peterson has emerged as one of the “three serious candidates” for the Pistons general manager opening. The other two candidates, according to Woj, are Los Angeles Clippers assistant general manager Mark Hughes, and Thunder vice president of basketball operations Troy Weaver.

Furthermore, Ian Begley of SNY is reporting that another member of the Nets front office may depart for Detroit. Brooklyn’s director of player personnel J.R. Holden is “among those on the Pistons’ radar as they look to add to their front office.”