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Should the Giants be concerned with their young secondary?

The New York Giants have to be concerned about their young secondary after getting schooled by the Jets in a joint practice this week.

The New York Giants came into training camp excited to see what their young secondary is made of. After a joint practice with the New York Jets this week, they should be realizing they might be in for a rough ride.

The Jets torched the Giants in both short and deep drills to the degree that members of the Giants’ beat pool had to call out the carnage.

The Giants, who were visiting the Jets in Florham Park for the one-day joint practice, had no answers for the Jets’ pitch-catch tandem of quarterback Aaron Rodgers and wide receiver Garrett Wilson. The Giants’ starting cornerback duo of Deonte Banks and Nick McCloud were beaten early and often.

From Charlotte Carroll of The Athletic:

With the crowd loving the moment and chanting Wilson’s name, Rodgers imitated putting a crown on Wilson’s head. Rodgers finished 16-of-22 in 11-on-11 periods.

Wilson torched the Giants secondary, including one play where he was so open that it was difficult to tell which Giants defender was supposed to be covering him. Coverage on Wilson varied between Deonte Banks and McCloud, but Wilson found success regardless.

With Flott sidelined, McCloud has taken first-team corner reps opposite Banks. But after getting burned by Wilson, the Giants put in Tre Hawkins for the final two-minute drill period. Banks was targeted repeatedly on the drive, but on the final play of the drill, Jets wide receiver Allen Lazard beat Hawkins for a touchdown.

The Flott that Carroll is referring to is Cor’Dale Flott, who the Giants were hoping would take over the outside corner role across from Banks. Instead, he’s been hobbled by a quad issue and McCloud is stepping into the role. Hawkins, who flashed last year, is in the mix but hasn’t done enough for the Giants to trust him again.

The Giants drafted two players they hope will step up and become solid pros in slot corner Dru Phillips and safety Tyler Nubin.

It will take time for the young group to gel. Right now, the growing pains are tough for the long-suffering Giant fans to watch.

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Giants’ Shane Bowen encouraged by the progress of Tyler Nubin

New York Giants defensive coordinator Shane Bowen is encouraged by the progress Tyler Nubin has made following a calf injury.

New York Giants rookie safety Tyler Nubin is a second-round draft pick out of Minnesota where he set the school record for career interceptions with 13.

As a senior, Nubin recorded 53 tackles (34 solo), four passes defensed, one sack, one forced fumble, and five interceptions. It’s easy to see why the Giants selected him in the early rounds.

But Nubin’s acclimation to the NFL has been a tad slow due to a calf injury. He’s returned to the field now, though, and defensive coordinator Shane Bowen is “encouraged” by what he’s seen.

“It was good to see him last week versus Detroit as well,” Bowen said Thursday. “He continues to get better. He continues to improve each day. I think the one thing with him is he’s finally out there. He’s healthy. We missed him those first two weeks.

“And he’s had ground to make up to get back in that competition. He’s been good. He’s taking advantage of the opportunities. Doesn’t make the same mistake twice. I’ve been encouraged by where he’s at right now.”

Nubin needs that in-game experience to help him catch up to where he needs to be. So far, it seems he’s putting forth the effort which bodes well for his playing time. His ability to acclimate and make plays will be huge among a youthful crew.

Throughout the week, and with injuries at the safety position, Nubin took first-team reps and appears poised to get a good look on Saturday against the Houston Texans.

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Giants’ Tyler Nubin offers epic quote on college-to-NFL transition

New York Giants rookie safety Tyler Nubin explains the difference between the NFL and college ball in a legendary way.

Preseason has started and the New York Giants are cautiously optimistic after a victory over the Detroit Lions showed improvement on both sides of the ball.

Still, teams are in the midst of training camp trying to figure out which players land on the final 53-man roster. One of the players looking to earn time on the field this season is rookie safety Tyler Nubin.

Nubin was selected in the second round after playing five years at Minnesota. After practice on Monday, the rookie was asked about the difference between college football and the NFL.

His answer was legendary.

“First off, the spacing of everything, that’s totally different than college. Obviously, the hashes are different. It’s definitely more of a matchup-based league than college,” Nubin explained. “Formations will tell you a lot, but if you’ve got Justin Jefferson over there at the X, the formation’s not telling you (expletive).

“If Justin Jefferson’s at the X, the formation does not matter. You know the ball is going over there. That’s one of the biggest things that’s a lot different than college. You have to pay attention to everything, you know, who’s around you, who the matchups are, who’s on the field.”

Obviously, it’s never a 100 percent guarantee that the ball is going Jefferson’s way when the Giants face the Vikings in Week 1. But it’s probably not a bad gamble to assume that it is, either.

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Giants’ Shane Bowen: Starting safety job ‘is Dane Belton’s to lose’

New York Giants defensive coordinator Shane Bowen says the starting safety job is “Dane Belton’s to lose.”

The New York Giants selected Minnesota’s Tyler Nubin with the 47th overall pick in this year’s NFL draft with the intention that he would fill the void left by the departure of Xavier McKinney in free agency.

That plan was in place until last week when Nubin was sidelined with a calf injury and replaced by third-year veteran Dane Belton, who is healthy and proving his worth in practices.

Giants defensive coordinator Shane Bowen said on Thursday that Belton is currently the front-runner for the starting safety job next to Jason Pinnock.

Belton has recently said, he believes the job should be his by right, anyway.

“I’m confident in my abilities,” Belton said, via NJ Advance Media. “I feel like I earned the right to play (more last year). . . This year, I’m trying to take the job.”

That aside, Nubin is working hard to get back on the field. He is doing individuals on Thursday.

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Injury to Giants LB Brian Burns is ‘nothing serious’

New York Giants head coach Brian Daboll says the ankle injury suffered by LB Brian Burns is “nothing serious.”

New York Giants head coach Brian Daboll met with the media on Tuesday morning ahead of his team’s sixth practice of their 2024 summer training camp.

Daboll confirmed that defensive end Brian Burns suffered an ankle injury on Tuesday but that it was “nothing bad” and Burns should be “ok.” He will be on the field on Tuesday.

Center John Michael Schmitz (shoulder) will not practice again on Tuesday and defensive lineman Dexter Lawrence (illness) will do individual drills.

Schmitz’s shoulder injury is said to be unrelated to the one he suffered last year on the attempted “tush push” that cost him four games.

Daboll added that tight end Lawrence Cager, who is having a fine camp thus far, has a hamstring issue and will be out indefinitely. Rookie safety Tyler Nubin (calf) will not practice again on Tuesday.

The Giants released defensive back Aaron Robinson, a former third-round pick, after he reportedly failed his physical

They filled the roster spot by signing 34-year-old interior offensive lineman Greg Van Roten, who is familiar with Giants offensive line coach Carmen Bricillo having been with Las Vegas last season

Daboll said Van Roten could play left guard, moving Jon Runyan Jr. to the right side next to Jermaine Eluemunor, another former Raider who is filling in for the injured Evan Neal at right tackle.

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Giants’ Matthew Adams showed up to team meetings in full pads

Anxious for the first padded practice of training camp, New York Giants LB Matt Adams showed up to Monday’s team meetings in full uniform.

New York Giants head coach Brian Daboll addressed the media before Monday’s training camp practice — the first one this summer in full pads.

Daboll opened by saying that the day’s drills would center around first and second downs with some one-on-one drills between offensive and defensive linemen thrown in.

One player especially eager for a fully padded practice was linebacker Matthew Adams, who showed up to Monday’s team meetings already in full uniform.

The coach said Pro Bowl defensive tackle Dexter Lawrence (illness) will not participate in Monday’s practice.

Jon Runyan Jr., who was signed to fill a vacancy at guard this past offseason, got reps at center on Sunday. Daboll said it was planned and that the ailment to John Michael Schmitz’s shoulder had no bearing.

Schmitz, safety Tyler Nubin (calf), and linebacker Tomon Fox (hamstring) will also not practice on Monday.

The Giants will be in full pads again on Tuesday.

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Giants’ Brian Daboll won’t commit to Week 1 return for Evan Neal

New York Giants head coach Brian Daboll says RT Evan Neal is “day to day” but refuses to commit to a Week 1 return.

New York Giants head coach Brian Daboll addressed the media on Sunday morning before his team’s practice at the Quest Diagnostics Training Center.

The players had a day off on Saturday but it was back to business on Sunday.

Daboll announced the team released quarterback Nathan Rourke, leaving the team with just three for the remainder of training camp. Meanwhile, rookie tight end Theo Johnson, a fourth-round pick out of Penn State, was activated off the PUP list.

Daboll also said rookie safety Tyler Nubin (calf) would not practice again on Sunday but was “getting close” to returning. Defensive lineman Timmy Horne (calf) will return to work after a short absence.

Center John Michael Schmitz (shoulder) will be limited on Sunday.

The status of right tackle Evan Neal remains murky with Daboll refusing to commit to a Week 1 return. Currently, Neal is considered “day-to-day.”

Daboll spoke about the value edge rusher Brian Burns has had on both the players he’s playing alongside (Kayvon Thibodeaux, Azeez Ojulari) and the players he’s going up against (left tackle Andrew Thomas).

The Giants will conduct their first padded practice of training camp on Monday.

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Giants’ Dane Belton feels like he deserves starting job

New York Giants third-year safety Dane Belton believes he is in line to fill the void left by the departure of Xavier McKinney.

New York Giants third-year safety Dane Belton was in line for more work after stater Xavier McKinney left for Green Bay via free agency this March.

Then the Giants signed veteran Jalen Mills in free agency and selected Tyler Nubin in the second round of the 2024 NFL draft. Nubin has been penciled in as a starter next to Jason Pinnock, but it’s early.

Nubin is beginning training camp on the sidelines with a calf issue and Mills is currently on the NFI list. This could be Belton’s opportunity to win favor with the coaching staff as he’s getting first-team reps at safety in practice.

“I’m confident in my abilities,” Belton said on Wednesday, via NJ Advance Media. “I feel like I earned the right to play (more last year). . . This year, I’m trying to take the job.”

Last season, Belton was the team’s third safety behind McKinney and Pinnock. McKinney played all 1,128 defensive snaps and Pinnock played on 89.3 percent. Belton played on just 296 of the plays or 26.2 percent.

Belton’s real value to the Giants was more as a special teamer.

“Coming off last year, I feel like I deserve this spot — and I’m going to go out there and earn it for sure. I feel like I’ve earned what I’ve gotten so far (with first-team reps in 2024). Things might change. (But) if I go out and make plays, it’s not going to matter. That’s the mindset.”

Belton was a fourth-round pick of the Giants out of Iowa in 2022. He was a hybrid linebacker/defensive back who the Giants have deployed mainly as a safety on defense.

We won’t know until Nubin hits the field what the Giants’ plans are under first-year coordinator Shane Bowen. We know Belton will play, but in what role and how much?

The Giants are looking for a reliable player to come in and take a ton of snaps like McKinney did last season.

“They’re big shoes,” Belton said. “He’s a really good player. But at the same time, I feel like I can do it. I know I make plays.”

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Giants’ Brian Daboll heaps praise on Malik Nabers, Jalin Hyatt

New York Giants head coach Brian Daboll has been wildly impressed with Malik Nabers and Jalin Hyatt this offseason.

The New York Giants were back on the practice field on Friday as their 2024 training camp barrels on. Head coach Brian Daboll met the media and was more forthcoming than in his previous sessions this week.

Of course, the main subject was rookie wide receiver Malik Nabers, the team’s first-round draft pick this past April. Nabers put on a show at Thursday’s practice, catching three touchdowns and appearing to be basically uncoverable.

Daboll is pleased, to say the least, at what he’s seen from Nabers thus far.

Other news centered around injuries. Guard Jermaine Eluemunor (ribs) will be limited in practice. Rookie safety Tyler Nubin will be held out with a calf and defensive lineman Timmy Horne also is dealing with a calf issue.

Daboll is hopeful that Eluemunor and Nubin could participate in Monday’s padded practice, the Giants’ first of this training camp.

The coach pointed out some of the players who had caught his eye at camp during the first few days. Backup tight end Lawrence Cager was one in particular. He has been smooth and appears to be much improved this summer.

“He’s playing faster,” Daboll said. “He’s absorbed what he needs to do understanding the playcalling and the nuances of the position. . . (Tight ends coach) Tim Kelly has done a great job with him”

Other players include wide receivers Allen Robinson and Jalin Hyatt along with free agent running back Devin Singletary.

Daboll lauded Robinson as a “good fit” and said that Hyatt’s total all-around game is improving by the day. The 30-year-old Robinson, a veteran of 10 NFL seasons, has already made his presence known and is working with Nabers and the other young wideouts in the film room.

Hyatt’s route running and understanding of the pro game have improved substantially. It hasn’t hurt that there’s more competition in camp this summer as well.

Singletary, who will be asked to help fill the void left by the departure of Saquon Barkley in free agency, also got some props.

Daboll didn’t totally ignore the defense. He had some positive notes on safety Jason Pinnock.

The Giants will take a day off on Saturday and resume workouts on Sunday.

Today is Isaiah Simmons’ 26th birthday. The team is excited about the energy he brings to their defense. So far in camp, Simmons has lined up as a defensive back in several packages. Interesting.

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Do Giants have one of NFL’s worst defenses headed into 2024 season?

Matt Holder of Bleacher Report believes the New York Giants have the NFL’s second-worst defensive unit entering the 2024 season.

The New York Giants parted ways with defensive coordinator Wink Martindale early in the offseason, replacing him with Shane Bowen.

Under Bowen, the Giants will move away from their heavy blitz style and will rely more on their ability to create an organic pass rush and zone coverage.

That will put a lot of pressure on a young secondary, who are now without cornerback Adoree’ Jackson (free agent) and safety Xavier McKinney (Green Bay Packers).

It’s for those reasons that Matt Holder of Bleacher Report believes the Giants have the second-worst defense in the NFL entering the 2024 season.

Personnel-wise, the Giants have a strong defensive line after trading for Brian Burns to go along with Dexter Lawrence and Kayvon Thibodeaux. However, the team’s secondary has more questions than answers.

Last year’s first-round pick, Deonte Banks, struggled as a rookie by allowing a 57.6 completion percentage when targeted and posting a 48.6 coverage grade, according to Pro Football Focus. However, Banks projects as New York’s top cornerback heading into 2024.

Third-year pro Cor’Dale Flott projects to be the other starting outside corner, while rookie third-rounder Dru Phillips is expected to man the nickelback position. Also, the Giants lost safety Xavier McKinney in free agency, and another rookie, Tyler Nubin, will likely take McKinney’s place in the lineup.

That makes for a very young defensive backfield in the Big Apple, so some struggles should be expected this fall.

Holder’s concerns are justified. Even given the upside of Deonte Banks, Andru Phillips and Tyler Nubin, all three players are a long way off from reaching their ceiling. The same can be said for Cor’Dale Flott, who was a third-round pick in 2022.

Aaron Robinson is also expected to return, but it’s anyone’s guess what he’ll bring to the table. And the signing of Tre Herndon, while solid, certainly doesn’t push the group over the top.

The Giants’ secondary could be a weakness but if the front seven is able to disrupt things, at least it will take some of the pressure off.

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