Payton Turner’s toe injury flared up again at Saints practice this week

Payton Turner’s toe injury flared up again at Saints practice this week. He’s playing through pain to prove he belongs:

Payton Turner’s toe injury flared up again at New Orleans Saints training camp this week, taking the defensive end out of practice early. It was the second time in as many weeks where Turner’s injury became a problem. And he returned to a full day of reps the next day just like the week before. But this may be something Turner and the Saints medical staff have to manage throughout his time in black and gold.

He’s playing through pain to prove he belongs. It’s not like Turner stubbed his toe or something negligible. He tore a ligament in his foot last year that required surgery and an extensive rehab, and it’s still bothering him. It’s really unfortunate for a player who is working so hard to help his team and salvage his career be slowed down by something outside his control like this.

So what’s to be done? Expect more occasional rest days for Turner throughout the season to help mitigate the weight and stress being put on his surgically-repaired foot. That’s the approach the team has taken with other players battling long-lasting injuries in the past, like Ryan Ramczyk’s degenerative knee condition. But we’ll just have to wait and see. Hopefully Turner can continue to play and fight for snaps in the rotation at defensive end behind Chase Young, Carl Granderson, and Cameron Jordan.

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Saints took the cautious approach with Ryan Ramczyk’s surgery

Ryan Ramczyk took a caution approach in knee surgery out of the options available to him, but the New Orleans Saints right tackle still landed in a tight spot:

The Ryan Ramczyk injury and surgery saga has been a difficult one to watch unfold, as he will be missing the season after being placed on the reserve/physically unable to perform (PUP) list. However, there are still small glimmers of hope coming out of the New Orleans Saints front office and coaching staff, which could be a positive sign moving into next season.

Head coach Dennis Allen spoke to the media recently, telling ESPN’s Katherine Terrell that Allen saw two options for the surgery on Ramczyk. One option, according to Allen, was “A lot more yes or no, meaning, you do the procedure and if it responds right, it’ll be good. If you don’t, well, he’s done.”

However, Ramczyk took the more cautious approach of the two, which is a good sign. General manager Mickey Loomis also talked about Ramczyk’s status, saying, “If there was any way possible, he (Ramczyk) would be playing.” Loomis also said that he is “hopeful that things can turn around, and with a year off that his knee responds, and he can get back out here for us.”

These quotes both sound like there is a possible glint of hope for 2025 and Ramczyk having a return chance. Ultimately, he needs to put his health first no doubt, and if he feels he is ready next year then maybe the discussion could be had about working into a return. Still, it is nice to hear a positive update on this front regardless, both from the general manager and head coach, as they have significantly more context than the rest of us at this point in time. We’ll just have to wait and see whether Ramczyk can get back out there.

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What’s next for Saints with Ryan Ramczyk out for the 2024 season?

What’s next for the Saints with Ryan Ramczyk out for the 2024 season? Their options are limited on the eve of training camp, but they knew this was coming:

What’s next for the New Orleans Saints with former All-Pro right tackle Ryan Ramczyk out for the 2024 season? Their options are limited on the eve of training camp, but they knew this was coming — head coach Dennis Allen has alluded to it as a possibility as far back as NFL owners meetings in March. That’s around the same time they informed Trevor Penning he’d be moving to right tackle while making plans to pick a new left tackle early in April’s draft.

In a perfect world they wouldn’t have to make any moves: Penning would develop as hoped with a new coaching staff and hold down the job at right tackle for years to come. Taliese Fuaga would convert to left tackle with ease and be a foundational piece moving forwards. Veteran free agents they’ve already signed like Olisaemeka Udoh and Justin Herron could join young backups Landon Young and Josiah Ezirim on the bench.

But they aren’t living in a perfect world. Things don’t always go to plan. Development isn’t linear, and it’s possible either or both of Penning and Fuaga struggle after flipping sides. If Penning is a bust at right tackle and Fuaga has to go back to his college position, who covers Derek Carr’s blind side? Young or Udoh?

That’s a hard sell. And as we said, the cupboard is looking awful bare in free agency. The Saints could look into signing another experienced pro but it has to be the right fit. Older players like Jason Peters, Duane Brown, and David Bakhtiari aren’t going to be eager to sign as a backup. If they’re going to join a team for camp it’ll likely be with the expectation that they’re starting. Other free agents like D.J. Humphries and Charles Leno Jr. are coming off of serious injuries.

Then you have free agents like Donovan Smith and Billy Turner. They’re both past their prime but they’ve played valuable snaps for teams recently, and they could be upgrades over the depth on the Saints’ roster as it stands right now. The question becomes whether they would be willing to sign on for a backup role and the league-minimum salary that comes with it. If the Saints are looking for an experienced left tackle who could take over if Fuaga moves back to the right side, Smith would make a lot of sense. Turner has mainly played right tackle as of late.

If we’re guessing today, the Saints won’t sign anyone. They’ll wait until pads come on and the first few days of practice are behind them before considering new additions. Give the youngsters time to settle in with their new coaches and test the veteran players competing behind them. They’ve had all offseason to make more moves and this Ramczyk development didn’t take them by surprise. If the Saints weren’t comfortable with their depth chart they would have done more to change it during the last two or three months.

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Saints place starting LT on PUP, opens door for rookie

Talliese Fuaga is penciled in as the Saints starting left tackle.

On Friday, it was reported that the New Orleans Saints had placed starting left tackle Ryan Ramczyk on the PUP list. Since it was after the deadline, the knee injury that cut off his 2023 season after just 12 games will cost him all of the 2024 season.

Knowing this was a real possibility, the Saints prepared by taking former Oregon State offensive tackle Taliese Fuaga in the first round of the 2024 NFL draft. Fuaga should have no issue in being ready by the start of the season to pick up where Ramczyk left off as the anchor on the left side of the Saints offensive line.

Ramczyk started 101 games over his first seven NFL seasons. Ramcyk was named an All-Pro three times. Fuaga parlayed a very strong 2023 season into being the third offensive tackle off the board after Joe Alt and Olu Fashanu. The Saints selected Fuaga with the No. 14 overall pick.

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Ryan Ramczyk won’t play football in 2024, NFL future in doubt

Ryan Ramczyk won’t play football in 2024, and his NFL future is in doubt. If he’s already played his last down, it’s a career he can be proud of:

We received the clearest indication yet that Ryan Ramczyk has already played his last down of pro football on Thursday. The New Orleans Saints placed their former All-Pro right tackle on the reserve/physically unable to perform (PUP) list, which carries an important distinction from the active/PUP list other players were designated to.

As observed by NFL Media’s Ian Rapoport, Ramczyk is a vested veteran (someone who has earned earned three or more credited seasons), and those vested veterans who have been placed on the reserve/PUP list before roster cuts on Aug. 27 are ineligible to play this season. His year is over.

“But his career for sure could be over now,” Rapoport said on NFL Network. “He is out for the season. He’s dealing with a knee issue and he of course has had some injury concerns over the years. But dealing with a knee issue now, they thought it was going to get better, they thought it was going to turn the corner, it just did not improve like the Saints and like Ramczyk had hoped.”

It’s possible that Ramczyk could bounce back after taking a year off, but he’s struggled to manage a degenerative knee condition and that’s unlikely to improve with time. At this point all he can realistically do is shed weight like many offensive linemen do after their playing careers are over, and formally file his retirement papers once the Saints are in a position to absorb it on the salary cap.

If this is it for Ramczyk, it’s a career he can be proud of. He only played a single season of Division I football in college before turning pro, having started at left tackle for Wisconsin after trying his hand at welding school, only to unexpectedly take over for an injured Zach Strief at right tackle during his first game as a rookie. Ramczyk immediately established himself as a top-five right tackle in the league and won three All-Pro nods in his seven-year career, starting every game he played. Few players retire without regrets, but Ramczyk got much closer than most. We’ll wish him well for whatever’s next.

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Former Wisconsin offensive tackle to miss entire 2024 NFL season

Former Wisconsin offensive tackle may miss entire 2024 NFL season

The New Orleans Saints placed former Wisconsin Badgers offensive tackle Ryan Ramczyk on the reserve/Physically Unable to Perform list on Thursday. That roster move ensures the star tackle will miss the entire 2024 NFL season due to an ongoing knee injury.

The fear regarding Ramczyk’s status was first shared by Saints head coach Dennis Allen back in March. It was confirmed by the team’s roster move on Thursday, on the eve of training camp for the 2024 NFL season.

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NFL Network insider Ian Rapoport clarified why Ramczyk’s early move to the PUP list means that he will miss the entire season, noting that “a vested veteran placed on Reserve/PUP prior to the final roster reduction is out for the season. Players placed on Reserve/PUP at the final roster reduction will miss at least 4 games.”

Ramczyk is entering his eighth NFL season after the Saints selected him in the first round of the 2017 NFL draft. All he’s done in that time is turn into one of the league’s best offensive tackles, earning one First-Team (2019) and two Second-Team (2018, 2020) All-Pro selections. 2024 will be the third year of a five-year, $96 million contract that he signed after his initial rookie contract.

The veteran has been hampered by injuries over the last few seasons. He missed six games in 2021 and five in 2023. The 2023 injury is what is still affecting his ability to play, as his current status is due to complications from offseason surgery to address that knee injury.

 

Ramczyk played for Wisconsin from 2015-2016 after transferring from UW-Stevens Point. He was a late bloomer in college but since became one of the better at his position in the sport.

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Ryan Ramczyk designated to reserve/physically unable to perform list

Ryan Ramczyk was designated to the reserve/PUP list on Thursday. He’s technically sidelined for the first four games, but his season is effectively over:

It had been looking like for a while now that New Orleans Saints All-Pro tackle Ryan Ramczyk’s future with the team was in doubt.

Thursday’s announcement confirmed just this.

The Saints shared that Ramczyk was placed on the reserve/physically unable to perform (PUP) list as he’s battling what’s been reported to be a degenerative knee issue. This will officially sideline him for the first four games of the season. If there were any chance Ramczyk could return sooner he wouldn’t be going on PUP.

With Ramczyk being placed on the list, he’s technically eligible to be activated to the roster the Monday after Week 4’s game against the Atlanta Falcons (Sept. 30). But according to NOF’s Nick Underhill, this is unlikely. He writes that “the expectation is that (Ramczyk) is not particularly close and his absence will extend well beyond the first four games. He’s unlikely to play this season.”

From the talk many of us heard this offseason from the Saints front office and coaching staff, this doesn’t come as a surprise. Head coach Dennis Allen made this statement earlier this offseason which gave us our first indication that Ramzyck’s future was uncertain: “We’ve got a plan for him. Certainly we don’t have to make any decisions now, but I haven’t seen the progress that I was hoping to see.”

If it is the end of the road for Ramczyk, he’s enjoyed a heck of a career. The former first-round pick started in all 101 games that he’s appeared in over seven years while also earning three All-Pro selections. That he went on to become one of the NFL’s most dominant right tackles in his prime after playing just a single season of Division I football at Wisconsin, at left tackle, is incredibly impressive.

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Countdown to Kickoff: Ryan Ramczyk is the Saints Player of Day 71

Countdown to Kickoff: Ryan Ramczyk is the New Orleans Saints Player of Day 71, but have we already seen the last of the former All-Pro?

There are 71 days to go until the New Orleans Saints open their 2024 season with the Carolina Panthers, which means the current owner of the No. 71 jersey is our Saints Player of the Day. But have we already seen the last of Ryan Ramczyk?

Let’s look back at Ramczyk’s career thus far, his current situation, and what could be ahead for him:

  • Name (Age): Ryan Ramczyk (30)
  • Position: Offensive tackle
  • Height, weight: 6-foot-6, 314 pounds
  • Relative Athletic Score: N/A
  • 2024 salary cap hit: $12,293,321
  • College: Wisconsin
  • Drafted: 1st round in 2017 (New Orleans Saints)
  • NFL experience: 8 years

Ramczyk was everything the Saints hoped he would be when they drafted him. He’s repeatedly won Pro Bowl and All-Pro attention through his career while playing at a high level, and for most of his time with the Saints he rarely missed a snap. It’s just a shame that his degenerative knee condition is likely cutting his career short. The Saints are giving him time to rehab away from the team, but it doesn’t sound like he’s expected to play again this season, if ever again.

If this is the end of the road, Ramczyk will have an opportunity to retire with the Saints, but don’t expect that to be processed until 2025. The Saints would likely put Ramczyk on injured reserve this season before circling back next offseason to give him as much time as possible to make a decision. If he does retire they would process his retirement just like they handled those for Drew Brees and Malcolm Jenkins. His future base salaries in 2025 and 2026 would be reduced to the minimum with whatever’s over from his signing bonus and past restructures being split between the current and next-year salary caps as dead money.

Hopefully it doesn’t come to that. It’s possible Ramczyk could find a solution for managing his bad knee and return to keep playing in black and gold. But that’s not something the Saints can count on. They’re already preparing for the future by drafting Taliese Fuaga and converting Trevor Penning to right tackle. Let’s hope better days are ahead for Ramczyk, but it’s important to acknowledge he may have already played his last down of pro football.

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Saints’ 2017 NFL draft class labeled 2010’s best draft class

The 2017 Saints draft class was headlined by Alvin Kamara and Marshon Lattimore. Bleacher Report labeled it the best class of its decade:

The New Orleans Saints 2017 NFL draft class is one of legend inside and outside of the fan base. Alvin Kamara, Marshon Lattimore, Ryan Ramczyk, Marcus Williams, and Trey Hendrickson all came to New Orleans in one draft class.

Bleacher Report’s Brent Sobleski labeled it as the best class of the 2010’s. This comes off the heels of placing Top 10 of the century in ESPN’s rankings. Sobleski required at least three difference makers for the class to make the cut. The Saints delivered five. Kamara and Lattimore made an instant impact as Offensive and Defensive Rookie of the Year winners. That was the first time that happened in the NFL since 1967.

Ramczyk and Williams also had strong starts to their careers. Williams doesn’t have the accolades but became a true eraser in the back end of the secondary. Meanwhile, Ramczyk followed a strong rookie season with three consecutive first or second team All-Pro designations.

After the stars, Hendrickson was the late bloomer. He notched 13.5 sacks in his final year with New Orleans before heading to Cincinnati where he maintained that level of play for the last three years. Even their sixth-round pick Al-Quadin Muhammad, who didn’t last long in New Orleans, went on to play 84 games in the NFL for other teams. There’s been great classes since the Saints 2017 draft, but it’ll be difficult to topple the amount of key contributors the Saints brought in that year.

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Dennis Allen shares grim update on former All-Pro tackle Ryan Ramczyk

Dennis Allen shared a grim update on former All-Pro tackle Ryan Ramczyk. His injured knee hasn’t progressed, and ‘We don’t have a timeline’ for his return

Things aren’t looking good for Ryan Ramczyk. The New Orleans Saints’ former All-Pro right tackle was an excused absence from minicamp practice on Tuesday, and head coach Dennis Allen said he’s the only injured player not currently with the team.

“I think the plan all along is for him to have been back home, resting, doing his rehab plan there,” Allen said. “We’ve got a plan for him. Certainly we don’t have to make any decisions now, but I haven’t seen the progress that I was hoping to see. And so, yeah, we’ve got him at home doing his rehab there.”

But what progress has Ramczyk shown? When asked, Allen was quick to point out he had not seen either positive steps forward or negative setbacks. Things have not changed since Ramczyk was last evaluated in March.

“I would say it’s not trending in either direction right now, in terms of the progress. So I wouldn’t say there’s been much change since the last time we discussed it,” Allen continued. When asked about Ramczyk’s timeline for recovery and return to the field, he replied “We don’t have a timeline.”

It isn’t too unusual for a player to rehab an injury away from the team, but it stands out that Ramczyk is the only Saints player dealing with an injury away from the facility. Guys like Chase Young (who had neck surgery in March) and Nephi Sewell (who injured his knee in late December) have been in Metairie receiving treatment from team doctors.

That backs up the initial expectation — that Ramczyk is not expected to play this year. This was characterized as a career-threatening injury, and while it’s possible a year away from football could be good for him, it’s likelier that he’s already taken his last snap in a Saints uniform. We’ll just have to wait and see. But this is why the Saints invested so many resources in their offensive line by hiring a new coaching staff, drafting Taliese Fuaga, and cross-training Trevor Penning at right tackle. You have to hope Ramczyk can return some day. It just isn’t something that can be counted on.

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