Updated Saints salary cap space after all of their latest signings

The Saints worked hard to reach salary cap compliance before free agency, so where do they stand now? Here’s our updated estimate with some details still unknown:

We’re a couple of weeks into free agency and more creative accounting decisions by the New Orleans Saints have allowed the team to keep their best players while spending responsibly on new additions. And a more measured attitude to retaining depth has allowed some fan-favorite backups to leave for bigger opportunities. So where do the Saints sit beneath the salary cap after working feverishly (or at least that’s how it looks from the outside peering in) to reach compliance before this all started? Can they even sign their draft class?

Now, this is an estimate based off some key assumptions and calculations. Again, it’s an estimate. Those with access to these contracts, agents, and key personnel in the Saints front office are going to have more accurate numbers. But we should be pretty close given everything that’s publicly available.

Let’s start with the big one: Chase Young’s contract. There’s still some confusion going around about his cap hit. Over The Cap’s experts, relying on early reporting, have him at $5,026,000 (and so does Spotrac, which regularly scrapes OTC’s website for data). But Young’s cap hit is much lower thana that. NewOrleans.Football’s Nick Underhill more recently reported that it’s under $3.5 million, which is the number the New Orleans front office is working with. How did they get there? What is the cap hit exactly?

We’re guessing it falls at about $3,406,000. That would account for a minimum salary ($1,125,000) and a prorated signing bonus ($2,281,000), which is how the Saints are treating Young’s per-game roster bonuses (totaling $7,990,000) and workout bonus ($450,000). Because all of that money was guaranteed to pay out this year, the Saints can treat it as a signing bonus (with voiding ghost years, of course) for cap purposes. Locked On Saints’ Ross Jackson reports that 16 of those 17 per-game roster bonuses  were designated as “likely to be earned” which means the Saints will be refunded a cap credit in 2025 for any games Young misses after Week 1.

Now to the others. Contract details on linebacker Willie Gay Jr., safeties Johnathan Abram and Ugo Amadi, and offensive lineman Oli Udoh are scarce. All we know for sure is that Gay received $3 million guaranteed with incentives that raises his deal’s max value to $5 million (and, if he reaches them, will count against the cap in 2025). So that probably means a guaranteed minimum salary ($1,125,000) and a signing bonus ($1,875,000) prorated over five years with more of those voiding ghost years, giving us a 2024 salary cap hit of just $1.5 million.

And in the cases of Abram, Amadi, and Udoh: we’re assuming they each signed at the minimum with few, if any, guarantees, as Abram and Amadi did last year. Udoh played on a $2.5 million deal for the Minnesota Vikings but missed most of the season with an injury and may have had to settle for less on a prove-it deal with the Saints. If that’s the case, all three of them qualify for the veteran salary benefit, where they’re receiving the minimum they qualify for ($1,125,000) while counting against the cap by less ($985,000).

Something often overlooked by fans is the offseason top-51 cutoff. Each team only counts their 51 highest cap hits against the salary cap before roster cuts in September, which allows them to sign 90 players for training camp and preseason. So any players added will push lower cap hits down beneath the top-51 apron. Which means, if accurate, these $985,000 cap hits for Abram, Amadi, and Udoh are pushing guys like second-year pros A.T. Perry ($959,091), Louo Hedley ($916,666), and Blake Grupe ($915,833) down beneath the top-51 threshold. That’s a net cost of just $163,410 against the cap.

The same principle applies for Young. The $3,406,000 cap hit we’re estimating for him would be pushing out a $915,000 deal for someone like tight end Tommy Hudson or defensive end Niko Lalos, which results in a net cost of $2,491,000.

And if you take all these estimated cap hits and net costs together, you’ll come up with about $14,681,353 in salary cap space for the Saints. That gives them enough room to sign their draft class (and remember, they’re getting back $2,420,000 in cap credits on June 2, which will help do that), add some more free agents, and roll over a little money into 2025. Maybe a lot of money if Young isn’t able to get on the field early this season.

Again, that number is an estimate. The reality could be higher or lower. Wait for word from people with better information before you start comparing the Saints to other teams — though, if you’re curious, this $14.6 million figure would rank 17th around the league.

While we’re at it, how does 2025 look? Right now, the Saints have about $331.4 million in cap commitments. That’s going to change once they reach a decision on contracts with Alvin Kamara and Taysom Hill this offseason, whatever that ends up being (a pay cut, extension, restructure, or early release are all options). Kamara and Hill combine for cap charges of $34.4 million and $44.7 million this season and the next. The same is true for Marshon Lattimore, whose $31.4 million cap hit in 2025 could change if he’s traded. They also have a $51.4 million anchor tied to Derek Carr next year. It’s important he play well in Klint Kubiak’s offense so they can restructure him again without anyone second-guessing the decision.

We shouldn’t undersell it: $331.4 million is a lot of money. Even if there are some easy off-ramps in place (another one: Ryan Ramczyk, who will be in the same position in the spring that he was in this year while dealing with a degenerative knee and a $29.6 million cap hit), the Saints will need some help from the salary cap itself to reach compliance. The cap is expected to keep rising after skyrocketing from $224.8 million to $255.4 million this year, and early estimates have it landing between $273 million and $280 million for 2025. It’s very possible to exceed expectations again.

If the cap does go even higher in 2025 than forecasts predict, the Saints will be in great shape. Every dollar it rises is a dollar they won’t have to restructure and kick in a can down the road or ask a player to give up in a pay cut. Let’s say the 2025 salary cap lands in the middle at $276.5 million. The Saints would be in the red by $54.9 million, which is their best start in years.

They’ve set themselves up to compete with the roster as it is now, without many changes. They believe they have their quarterback, a couple of talented young receivers, and a defense with every-down starters at each level. The team’s salary cap specialist, Khai Harley, has a plan to keep the books in order. It’s absolutely vital for head coach Dennis Allen and his staff to get the most out of the roster they’ve been given. So far, that has proven too challenging for them. If 2024 isn’t any different then bigger changes have to be in order for 2025.

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Report: Jets, free-agent OLB Jadeveon Clowney have ‘remained in constant contact’

The Jets may be looking to swoop in on another Panthers free-agent target.

The New York Jets may be primed to swoop in on another Carolina Panthers free-agent target.

According to Bleacher Report NFL insider Jordan Schultz, the Jets and outside linebacker Jadeveon Clowney have “remained in constant contact” following their meeting from this past week. Schultz also notes that while New York is “highly motivated” to sign the three-time Pro Bowler, the Panthers and Baltimore Ravens have maintained interest in deals of their own.

Clowney visited the Panthers back on March 14. The 31-year-old Rock Hill, S.C. native is coming off a productive 2023 campaign in Baltimore, where he posted 9.5 sacks and a career-high 71 pressures.

Since his visit, Carolina has signed fellow free-agent pass rushers D.J. Wonnum and K’Lavon Chaisson. They also expressed interest in former No. 2 overall pick Chase Young, who was ultimately scooped up by the NFC South rival New Orleans Saints.

In addition to Clowney, the Jets were in pursuit of wide receiver Mike Williams—who the Panthers met with as well. That pursuit proved to be a successful one, as Williams agreed to a one-year contract with New York.

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Saints find themselves in the bottom-8 of new NFL power rankings

After a quiet offseason, the New Orleans Saints found themselves 10 spots lower than they started in the latest NFL power rankings:

We’re a few weeks into free agency and everyone has a take on how well each team has improved (or degraded). NFL.com’s Eric Edholm recently released his first power rankings since free agency began, saying that the article is meant to be a reflection of each team’s 2023results  and the moves they’ve made thus far in the 2024 offseason.

Changes at quarterback and coaching elicit the greatest response. It’s a fun exercise to see how teams are viewed prior to the draft. The New Orleans  Saints came in at 25th:

The Saints haven’t truly been gutted in free agency, and they managed to sign Chase Young in spite of their salary-cap constraints, but they also haven’t truly upgraded in any one obvious way, either. Both lines of scrimmage need multiple additions, and wide receiver is pretty barren. It’s going to be hard to make the offensive talent significantly better around QB Derek Carr, based on what’s available and what they can spend.

New Orleans should be able to seek help at receiver and on the offensive line in the draft, but they had better find ready-made talents who can step in Year 1. Carr and Dennis Allen can’t yet be sleeping too easily, given the state of the roster. If this coming season is a failure, it’s hard to have confidence in the futures of either beyond 2024.

Harsh. Edholm clearly doesn’t share the opinion that coaching was the biggest detriment to the New Orleans offense. Your opinion on if the Saints can improve their offense largely comes down to if you believe in Klint Kubiak. The Saints dropped 10 spots despite remaining essentially the same as last year, roster wise. Edholm is not a believer.

Is it the Greatest Show on Turf? No, but describing the wide receiving corps as barren feels extreme. Chris Olave and Rashid Shaheed are a solid foundation with room to grow within the room. The description of the trenches is more accurate than his take on the receivers. The Saints do need to make improvements on each side of the ball, but New Orleans isn’t as far from simply being average as Edholm believes.

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TD Wire’s post-free agency power rankings unimpressed by Saints offseason

Touchdown Wire’s post-free agency power rankings are unimpressed by the New Orleans Saints offseason so far:

There aren’t many exercises more useless than NFL power rankings, which are the ultimate subjective expression of someone’s takes. Still, they are a quick way to summarize every team’s status and outlook relative to their peers, and it’s interesting to see where the New Orleans Saints clock in.

And they didn’t earn positive marks from Touchdown Wire’s Jarrett Bailey, who ranked the Saints all the way down at No. 24 among the league’s 32 teams. Here’s why Bailey is so down on the Saints:

The Saints win the award for the team I care the least about in 2024. We know what they are. They’re the same team they’ve been for the last three years. They’ll keep kicking this can down the road, thinking they’re just one or two moves away from being contenders, only to go 7-10 and repeat the cycle (see the Chase Young and Willie Gay signings). The Panthers may win fewer games in the division, but at least they’re interesting and have a young quarterback that went No. 1 overall last year. What is interesting about watching Derek Carr overthrow Chris Olave five times a game while Taysom Hill poaches touchdowns from inside the five? Nothing. They’re a team with a lame duck head coach and a lame duck quarterback awaiting another boring, mediocre season.

The Saints are the lowest-ranked team to finish the 2023 season with a winning record, but as Bailey said this was more of a vibe check than any really substantial analysis. And it’s tough to argue with the suggestion that Derek Carr and Dennis Allen are an uninspiring duo. Neither of them have won a single playoff game in a decade as a starting quarterback or five years as a head coach (or in two seasons together, between the Saints and Raiders).

Buying what the other teams in the NFC South are selling, though: that’s indefensible. For all his interest in the Panthers, Bailey ranks them behind the Saints at No. 29 while coming off a two-win season. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers are further ahead at No. 21 after winning a home playoff game but having lost their offensive coordinator.

And the most baffling decision is to rank the Atlanta Falcons all the way up at No. 7, calling them Super Bowl contenders for having signed Kirk Cousins. The same quarterback who famously did not lead a much more talented Minnesota Vikings team to the Super Bowl during his six years with the team, and who is now coming off season-ending Achilles surgery while joining a team built to lean on its defense without the defensive coordinator who led them to success a year ago. Good luck with that.

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B/R says hiring Klint Kubiak the Saints’ smartest move this offseason

The Saints tried to jumpstart their offense by hiring Klint Kubiak, and Bleacher Report labels that the smartest move of their offseason:

It’s been a busy offseaseon for the New Orleans Saints, but Bleacher Report’s Maurice Moton labels the hiring of offensive coordinator Klint Kubiak as their smartest move so far. Free agency is on the front of many minds, specifically the Saints’ Chase Young signing, but Kubiak is unquestionably the biggest move of the offseason.

Here’s why Moton agrees with that sentiment:

“New Orleans hired Klint Kubiak to replace Pete Carmichael Jr., whose offense moderately improved between 2022 and 2023 but sputtered for stretches last year. The Saints’ offense finished 15th and 18th on third-down conversions and in red-zone scoring, respectively.

After a year as the San Francisco 49ers’ passing-game coordinator, Kubiak may be able to carry over some principles from the Niners’ fourth-ranked passing offense that can help elevate Derek Carr’s production.”

New Orleans’ inconsistent offense was the biggest issue on the team, so it was naturally the paramount question heading into the offseason. The Saints answered that question in the form of a new offensive coordinator. Kubiak must, at the worst, establish consistency on the offensive side of the ball. That alone elevates ceiling of the Saints in 2024.

Improvements on the offense may be more important than last season. The defense is talented and has been carrying the team since Drew Brees retired. The recipe hasn’t resulted in playoff teams. The defense is getting older at pivotal positions, and there’s questions about the younger players. A dropoff could occur at any moment.

The offense remaining stagnant limits the Saints’ ceiling as an above-average team. Chemistry between players should be an issue left in 2023. Now it’s about mastering the offense and Kubiak maximizing the talent.

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Grading the Saints’ signing of former 49ers DE Chase Young

We know the contract terms and 2024 salary cap hit. So how do you grade the Saints’ signing of Chase Young? Here’s our take:

It took a while for all the details to come to light, but now we know the structure, risks, and true costs of Chase Young’s contract with the New Orleans Saints. So now the fun part: evaluating it with a simple letter grade.

This is complicated, so stay with us. Young signed a one-year contract carrying $13 million in guarantees, and so long as he’s active and healthy for all 17 games, he’ll see every dollar. But his salary cap hit in 2024 is just over $3.4 million. How did the Saints do that? Why not pay it off all at once?

Young’s contract is structured to include $7.99 million in 17 per-game roster bonuses, of which 16 are treated as a signing bonus for accounting purposes. So they’re guaranteed now and spread out over the next five years to more easily fit on the books. The Saints will get a $470,000 cap credit next year for any games that Young misses in 2024.

So if this is a one-and-done deal the Saints will be paying $3.4 million for Young in 2024 and as much as $9.1 million in 2025 as dead money. If Young misses extensive time that 2025 dead money figure goes down significantly. It’s about as team-friendly a deal as it gets while also making concessions for the player. Young has a lot of incentive to recover quickly from offseason neck surgery and get back on the field in time for Week 1.

But Young is worth the risks. When he’s healthy, engaged, and firing on all cylinders he looks like the best pass rusher in the NFL. The Saints are hoping to get that version of him more than what the San Francisco 49ers saw after trading for Young last year: a slow-footed player who shied away from contact, and who they allowed to leave in free agency without a fight.

Grade: B

So with all this in mind, we’re grading this move with a B. Young looks like a good pickup, not a great one, and his availability is our greatest concern. It’s reassuring that the Saints protected themselves financially but fans have seen too many talented defensive ends go missing for weeks on end because of injuries in recent years. Hopefully Young can end that streak rather than continue it.

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Saints shouldn’t let signing Chase Young stop them from drafting another pass rusher

The Saints shouldn’t let signing Chase Young stop them from drafting another pass rusher. They need more firepower regardless of Young’s health:

Even if Chase Young was fully healthy, the New Orleans Saints should still consider drafting more pass-rush help in the first round of the 2024 NFL draft. Young’s uncertain health status ahead of neck surgery only makes the statement more true. The signing allows you to not reach for an edge rusher, but it shouldn’t keep you from drafting one if an impact player is there.

There are enough talented pass-rushing defensive ends on this roster to make the sentiment questionable, however, the room isn’t quite set up for the future. Chase Young is on a one-year contract. Tanoh Kpassagnon is a free agent next year. Payton Turner will be as well unless the team picks up his fifth year option. As a matter of fact, an impactful rookie could make Turner expendable during camp. Alabama’s Dallas Turner and UCLA’s Laiatu Latu have been popular picks for the Saints in recent mock drafts.

Carl Granderson, Isaiah Foskey, and Cameron Jordan are the only core edge rushers under contract for 2025. There’s questions within that triumvirate moving forward as well given each player’s age, past production, and injury outlook. There are bodies at the position, but the position shouldn’t be considered stable. Signing Young makes you feel satisfied with your 2024 outlook, so drafting an edge rusher at No. 14 isn’t a must-have, but it should be seen as a priority. It could still be a huge benefit for this year and moving forward if the right guy falls to New Orleans.

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Chase Young’s unique contract structure makes Saints deal look better than expected

Chase Young’s unique contract structure makes his deal with the Saints look better than expected. See for yourself:

Now this is interesting. It’s been a whirlwind of a week for Chase Young and the New Orleans Saints — fans following this saga were surprised to see him sign a fully-guaranteed $13 million contract on Monday, which turned out to be for just one year, before it was reported that Young will be undergoing neck surgery. That procedure is going to sideline him into training camp.

And now there’s another twist as the full picture becomes clear. The Saints knew about Young’s medicals before they agreed to this contract, and it’s structured in such a unique way that they’re protected in case he misses time recovering.

CBS Sports’ Jonathan Jones first reported that the Saints signed Young to a deal that includes $7.99 million in per-game roster bonuses, which he will only receive if he’s active each week during the 2024 season. So Young risks losing $470,000 for every game he’s unavailable, giving him a strong incentive to attack his rehab and get back on the field as soon as possible.

Additionally, Jones reports that Young’s base salary is just $2.7 million. He also received a $1.86 million signing bonus and a $450,000 workout bonus. That means Young’s contract is effectively a $5.01 million deal with another $7.99 million he can earn through being active in every game. Any games he misses will result in a salary cap credit going back to the Saints in 2025. If things take a bad turn and Young never plays a down for New Orleans, the team will get the full $7.99 million back next season.

Obviously they hope that won’t come to pass. Everyone involved is eager for Young to get healthy and play a productive 17 games in the fall (and then some; it’s playoffs or bust for underperforming head coach Dennis Allen). To that end, betting on his upside is worthwhile.

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Why the Bucs probably weren’t interested in signing Chase Young

For Bucs fans who were frustrated that Chase Young signed with the Saints, here’s why Tampa Bay probably passed on him

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers need more talented edge rushers, so it might have been understandable for some fans to be frustrated when they saw free agent Chase Young sign a one-year deal with the division-rival New Orleans Saints this week.

Young, a former No. 2 overall pick, might have seemed like an ideal replacement for Shaq Barrett, who was released to save salary cap space earlier in the offseason.

Young’s one-year deal with the Saints was originally reported as a full-guaranteed pact worth $13 million for 2024, but as it turns out, that’s not the whole story.

There’s also a very good reason why, as MMQB’s Albert Breer breaks down here:

It’s not clear whether or not any other teams had interest in signing Young outside of the Saints, but if the Bucs weren’t among them, this information makes it clear why not.

There are still some veteran options available if the Bucs want an experienced replacement for Barrett, but they’re also expected to target a top edge rusher early in the 2024 NFL draft.

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Former Commanders DE Casey Toohill signs with the Bills

Casey Toohill follows Curtis Samuel to Buffalo.

When the Washington Commanders opened last season, their top five defensive ends were slated for free agency after the season. At the NFL trade deadline in October, Washington traded starting defensive ends Montez Sweat and Chase Young.

The trades of Sweat and Young left the Commanders with James Smith-Williams, Casey Toohill, and Efe Obada atop the depth chart, with rookies K.J. Henry and Andre Jones Jr. as the backups.

This offseason, new GM Adam Peters and head coach Dan Quinn have been rebuilding the position, using free agency to sign Dorance Armstrong, Dante Fowler Jr. and Clelin Ferrell. Washington did bring back Obada on a one-year deal.

Toohill found a new home on Tuesday, signing a one-year deal with the Buffalo Bills.

 

A 2020 seventh-round draft pick of the Eagles, Toohill was claimed off waivers by the Commanders in October of his rookie season. He became a consistent part of Washington’s rotations over the past four seasons, playing in 16 games in each of the past three seasons, making 14 starts.

Toohill had a career-high five sacks in 2023. Toohill has played in 57 games for his career, recording 80 tackles, 20 QB hits, and seven sacks.

Smith-Williams remains a free agent.