Giants hire longtime Saints running backs coach Joel Thomas

The Giants hired longtime Saints running backs coach Joel Thomas. More changes are hitting the New Orleans coaching staff:

This seemed to be likely: the New York Giants announced that Joel Thomas will take over as their running backs coach on Brian Daboll’s staff, marking the latest departure from the New Orleans Saints. Thomas had worked with the Saints since 2015 but he’ll be leaving in a lateral move.

It’s another shakeup on the offensive side of the ball in New Orleans. The Saints rushing attack fell off in recent years, finishing 21st, 19th, and 15th in rushing yards each of the last three seasons while totaling 37 touchdown runs in their last 51 games.

Notably, Thomas is the only position coach that Alvin Kamara has known in his Saints career. The fan-favorite running back has a couple of years left on his contract but speculation has swirled that he could be on the trade block in the near future as one of the team’s few enviable assets. Hopefully he’s receptive to a new position coach who can help Kamara get back to the record-breaking form we saw in years past so he can finish his career in black and gold.

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Podcast: Dennis Allen, Saints promise changes this offseason. Here’s what to expect

Dennis Allen and Saints leadership have promised changes ahead of the 2024 offseason. Here’s what to expect:

The Saints Wire podcast is back with managing editor John Sigler (@john_siglerr) and our host Ryan O’Leary (@RyanOLearySMG) recapping the New Orleans Saints’ dominant win over the Atlanta Falcons — and all the drama that followed it.

Dennis Allen and Saints leadership have promised changes in the offseason, but what might those look like? Will there be as much turnover in the coaching staff as on the roster? Could Jon Gruden take over as offensive coordinator from Pete Carmichael, and get more out of Derek Carr? Are top assistants like offensive line coach Doug Marrone on the way out the door? Tap in and get up to speed. Here’s what to expect.

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Report: Saints considering Jon Gruden, but not for offensive coordinator

The Saints are reportedly considering Jon Gruden as an addition to their coaching staff, but not as a replacement for offensive coordinator Pete Carmichael:

This was obviously coming down the pipeline, right? Jeff Duncan reports for the Times-Picayune | Advocate that the New Orleans Saints are considering Jon Gruden for a role on their coaching staff, having wined and dined with him before their Week 17 road game with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers (in Tampa, where Gruden resides). Gruden was previously around the team as an unpaid consultant during their 2023 training camp.

Gruden got more out of Saints quarterback Derek Carr than any other coach when they were together on the Raiders, but here’s the catch: Duncan adds that Gruden “likely would” come on as assistant coach, not an outright replacement for offensive coordinator Pete Carmichael. He describes a possible situation similar to the one that Allen experienced as co-defensive coordinator with Rob Ryan back in 2015, when the Saints eventually dismissed Ryan midseason to give Allen full control of the defense.

On top of that, Gruden is actively suing the NFL and league commissioner Roger Goodell while seeking damages to his personal reputation and professional career. Gruden resigned as the Raiders head coach in 2021 after emails he wrote while an employee at ESPN from 2011 to 2018 were leaked, containing sexist, racist, and homophobic content led to public outcry. The documents were discovered during an NFL investigation into workplace misconduct allegations against former Washington executives. A hearing in the Nevada Supreme Court is expected later this week.

The Saints offense improved greatly down the stretch in 2021, with Carr throwing 15 touchdown passes against 3 interceptions through six games in December, while the unit averaged 28.8 points per game. Once Carmichael picked up recent trends and started utilizing more frequent play action, pre-snap motion, and more favorable targets for the tight ends, Carr flourished.

But it was still too little, too late for the Saints to reach the playoffs. If Dennis Allen believes that Gruden can help Carr and the offense start hotter and maintain consistency, they’ll likely make a run at him, even if it’s unclear how he’d fit into the offensive coaching structure (to say nothing of whether the NFL would allow it while he’s actively suing them). Duncan’s report says there’s mutual interest, so stay tuned.

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9 potential replacements for Saints head coach Dennis Allen

The Saints may not be preparing to fire Dennis Allen, but they should be. Better head coach candidates are out there like Jim Harbaugh, Ben Johnson, and Brian Flores:

Will the New Orleans Saints move on from Dennis Allen after this season? They probably should. He hasn’t met the expectations set for him in either of his first two years as their head coach, and he’ll need to to beat two NFC South rivals that defeated him soundly earlier this season just to finish the 2023 campaign with a winning record.

The Saints went all in on his vision for the team by signing his preferred quarterback Derek Carr to a lucrative contract and repeatedly trading up in the NFL draft for prospects he wanted the most, costing them much-needed picks that could have been used to restock an aging roster. And Allen hasn’t had anything to show for it. It’s time to move on from the coach with the 184th-ranked career winning percentage in NFL history whether the Saints’ brass wants to admit it or not.

So who are their options if they do dismiss Allen from his post? Years of poaching have thinned out the crowd of candidates ahead of the latest coaching carousel, but there are some intriguing names on the market. Here are five coaches we’d like to see wearing black and gold:

Saints activate LB Ryan Connelly from injured list, bring back RB Jordan Mims

The Saints activated linebacker Ryan Connelly from the injured list, also re-signing running back Jordan Mims to fill out their practice squad:

Reinforcements are on the way: the New Orleans Saints brought back a few familiar faces on Tuesday’s update to the daily NFL transactions wire, with linebacker Ryan Connelly activated from injured reserve and running back Jordan Mims re-signed after being waived last week; both players were added to the practice squad, which is now back at capacity. Tight end/fullback J.P. Holtz was released from the practice squad to facilitate these moves.

Connelly suffered a preseason knee injury and tried to play through it in the season opener with the Tennessee Titans, but that only aggravated the issue. He had to sit out the next six weeks while recovering. But he’s back now, and he should be in line for a role on special teams much like he was before. The Saints have relied on Zack Baun (162 snaps), D’Marco Jackson (161), Nephi Sewell (136), and Ty Summers (117) heavily in the kicking game, but Connelly was playing ahead of Sewell and Summers prior to his injury.

As for Mims: he only played a bit part while coming off the practice squad, but he did well on limited snaps. He got in on the opening tackle against the Houston Texans kick return in Week 6, his first play in the NFL, and the team clearly sees some things they can work with in him. For now he’ll be buried on the depth chart behind Alvin Kamara, Jamaal Williams, and Kendre Miller.

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New Orleans Saints add depth at RB, DB on 55-man roster for Week 6 at Texans

The New Orleans Saints added depth at running back and safety with a change at fullback for their 55-man roster in Week 6’s game with the Houston Texans:

The New Orleans Saints added depth at running back and safety with a change at fullback for their 55-man roster in Week 6’s game with the Houston Texans. This week, the Saints are bringing up two practice squad players as game-day elevations in tight end/fullback J.P. Holtz and safety Daniel Sorensen, both of whom will revert to the practice squad after the game.

Additionally, the Saints signed running back Jordan Mims to their active roster. He joined the practice squad earlier this season and the team is suddenly thin at the position with Jamaal Williams on injured reserve and Tony Jones Jr. on the Arizona Cardinals’ roster after being waived. The rookie was college teammates with Saints quarterback Jake Haener at Fresno State; Haener’s six-game suspension ends Monday. Look for Mims to back up Alvin Kamara and Kendre Miller.

Let’s not overlook the fullback position. Adam Prentice is going on injured reserve for at least the next four games while managing a knee injury he suffered last week, and Holtz is a natural choice to fill in for him after re-signing with the practice squad earlier this week. Holtz played that role last season and has versatility to line up as a blocking tight end, too. Prentice struggled in a couple of games leading up to this injury so Holtz has an opportunity to make the job his own if he plays well.

With all that said: here are the 55 players on the Week 6 roster now that those two practice squad elevations have been added to the 53-man lineup:

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Saints announce a flurry of last-minute roster moves before kickoff vs. Packers

The Saints announced a flurry of last-minute roster moves before traveling for Sunday’s kickoff with the Packers:

We’re rapidly closing in on the New Orleans Saints’ Week 3 road game with the Green Bay Packers, and the Saints have announced a series of last-minute roster moves to help prepare for this matchup.

Some of the moves were made in response to injuries, others were procedural. Here’s what you need to know about each of them:

Jamaal Williams, Foster Moreau among many Saints changing jersey numbers

Jamaal Williams and Foster Moreau are among many New Orleans Saints changing jersey numbers in the wake of last week’s roster cuts:

A small crowd of New Orleans Saints players are changing jersey numbers in the wake of roster cuts last week, which freed up a lot of coveted numbers — and some big names like running back Jamaal Williams and tight end Foster Moreau are among those making moves. So is rookie quarterback Jake Haener.

Here are all nine players who have switched numbers before the regular season kicks off:

Saints sign a former Titans player to their practice squad

The Saints signed a former Titans player to their practice squad on Monday — former Arizona State TE Tommy Hudson, who just spent training camp with the Broncos:

It isn’t too uncommon to see NFL teams signing practice squad players who used to suit up for their next opponent, but that hasn’t been a common tactic for the New Orleans Saints over the years. So we probably shouldn’t take that angle with the team signing tight end Tommy Hudson on Monday, but it does add an element of intrigue to the move. Hudson’s signing was reported by the Saints on the daily NFL transactions wire, as the corresponding move of releasing rookie offensive lineman Mark Evans II to open a spot on the practice squad.

Hudson got his NFL start with the Tennessee Titans as an undrafted free agent out of Arizona State back in 2020; the 6-foot-5, 255 pounder primarily worked as a blocker in their offense, and he signed with the Denver Broncos this summer for an extended tryout at training camp. The Broncos’ pillaging of the Saints tight ends room landed them Adam Trautman and Lucas Krull, though, so there wasn’t a spot left for Hudson.

He replaces Evans, a former left tackle at Arkansas-Pine Bluff who the Saints auditioned at both guard spots in preseason. Evans was one of the team’s highest-paid undrafted rookie pickups and there’s a good chance he could return after some other roster moves are completed.

As for Hudson? The Saints could have brought back veteran blocking tight end J.P. Holtz after they released him during roster cuts, but they chose to try and get younger at that spot instead. Snaps could be hard to come by for Hudson with Juwan Johnson, Foster Moreau, Jimmy Graham, and part-time quarterback Taysom Hill ahead of him on the depth chart.

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NFL releases statement on third QB rule that may explain Taysom Hill position switch

The NFL released a statement on its third QB rule. It doesn’t offer much more clarity, but it may explain the Taysom Hill position switch:

The New Orleans Saints drew a lot of attention on Monday by changing the position listing for Taysom Hill on their official website roster. After being listed at tight end throughout the summer, he’s now grouped with the quarterbacks.

When asked about the change after practice, head coach Dennis Allen said that it was “more of a clerical thing than anything else,” rather than a reaction to the NFL’s new third-quarterback rule. Still, this change could be a factor during the season. He pointed out that Hill played about half his snaps at quarterback last year. The Saints like to get him involved in a number of different roles as a runner, receiver, passer and occasional blocker.

Hours after the change was noted on the Saints website, the NFL released a series of questions and answers clarifying eligibility for the rule, specifying that only bona fide quarterbacks factor into the decision. Here’s their description of what that means:

For the purposes of the Emergency Third Quarterback rule, a bona fide quarterback is defined as a player who wears a jersey number authorized for a quarterback and (a) is an established quarterback (e.g., someone who has customarily played the position in past professional or college seasons); or (b) is a player who takes regular-season snaps only at quarterback during at least three consecutive weeks of practice, including any week the player would be listed as an Emergency Third Quarterback.

Additionally, here are the eligibility rules for the emergency third quarterback:

  1. The Emergency Third Quarterback must be on the club’s 53-player roster; the player cannot be an elevated Practice Squad player. The club’s starting quarterback (QB1) and its backup quarterback (QB2) must also be on the club’s 53-player roster.
  2. A club must have two bona fide quarterbacks on its 47/48-player gameday active list to designate an Emergency Third Quarterback. 
  3. A club cannot designate an Emergency Third Quarterback if it has three or more bona fide quarterbacks on its 47/48-player gameday active list

So this has more to do with Jake Haener than Taysom Hill; the rookie would be that emergency third passer they’re talking about. But what would it look like each week? Here are two examples:

Let’s say it’s a typical game week for the Saints. We’re in Week 1 and the top three quarterbacks are listed on the 48-man active roster: Derek Carr, Jameis Winston and Taysom Hill. Jake Haener is inactive, and because the Saints have three available quarterbacks, he wouldn’t be eligible to play. If Carr and Winston are both unavailable, Hill would get the nod.

Now we’re on to the next game, in a scenario where either Carr or Winston (or Hill) is not able to play. Because the Saints are down a man, they can now have Haener dress but not count against the 48-man active-roster limit. He’ll only be able to play if both quarterbacks ahead of him on the depth chart go down. But he will have that option.

At least that’s the idea in theory. The NFL hasn’t really painted a clearer picture than what we had earlier this offseason by overdoing this rule.

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