Ben Askren reflects on Dana White, UFC declining to sign him in 2013: ‘How did I not get an offer?’

If Ben Askren could get a straight answer from UFC president Dana White to one question, it’s this: “Why didn’t you sign me in 2013?”

If [autotag]Ben Askren[/autotag] could get a straight answer from UFC president [autotag]Dana White[/autotag] to one question, it’s a no-brainer what he’d ask.

“Why didn’t you sign me in 2013?” Askren, 38, said in a recent interview with MMA Junkie Radio. “I don’t know. Tell me. I just want to know.”

Back in 2013, Askren was one of the most talked-about MMA fighters outside of the UFC. He’d entered the sport in 2009 with a wrestling pedigree that included two NCAA Division I national titles at the University of Missouri, a gold medal in the U.S. National Championships, and an appearance in the 2008 Summer Olympics.

Askren was 12-0, in the prime of his career and among the top welterweights in the world as a Bellator champion who’d defended his belt four times. When his Bellator contract ended after a TKO win over Andrey Koreshkov on July 31, 2013, Askren expected to move on to the UFC, something he details in his recently released book, Funky: My Defiant Path Through the Wild World of Combat Sports.

“I look back on that period like, how did I not get an offer?” Askren said.

According to Askren, the UFC showed a level of interest, but the promotion wanted him to get out of his matching clause with Bellator so that it didn’t have to negotiate with that in mind. Askren said he squared that away and faxed over the paperwork to the UFC in September 2013 during UFC 165 fight week.

And then?

“That afternoon, Dana’s in a scrum and he says, ‘We have no interest in Ben Askren,'” Askren recalled. “And it was like, wait, what just happened? What the f*ck?”

Askren said he called his agents wanting to fly out to Las Vegas to meet with UFC officials. The meeting didn’t include White. Askren remembers it was the same day that Daniel Cormier was would be there, as well, to discuss his situation after coming over in the Strikeforce acquisition.

Askren said on that ensuing Monday, the UFC gave him what he described as an “obscure offer.”

“Without getting too nuanced, what they offered me was that I would sign a contract with them, but I would do one fight in World Series of Fighting (now PFL),” Askren said. “They would pay my paycheck, they would do everything, and then after that singular fight I would come over to the UFC.”

Askren’s thoughts at the time?

“It’s dumb,” he said. “But whatever, you know? I’m in.”

The way Askren saw it, he would enter the UFC, win the welterweight title and get a new contract afterward. But later that day, Askren said, he was informed by his manager that the UFC was pulling its offer.

Looking back, Askren still has questions.

“How didn’t this happen? Why didn’t this happen? This is so dumb,” Askren said. “It’s one of those things you can’t have regrets about. There’s nothing else I could’ve done at that point in time. It was what it was.”

Askren went on to sign with ONE Championship where he continued his unbeaten run as its welterweight champion through November 2017. He finally officially joined the UFC in late 2018 after ONE traded him away for Demetrious Johnson.

Askren believes White appreciated him by the time he finally got to the UFC.

“You know what I think won him over was I just genuinely didn’t give a sh*t, and I wanted to fight good people,” Askren said. “OK, give me whoever you want. … For me, it was like, who do you want me to fight? When do you want me to fight? I’ll show up on time, I’ll make weight, and let’s go. No nonsense, no shenanigans, no asking for more money, no nothing. So I think he realized I’m actually real easy to deal with.”

Beyond his prime, Askren went 1-2 in the UFC in 2019, with a controversial win over former champion Robbie Lawler followed by a record-breaking knockout loss to Jorge Masvidal and a technical submission loss to Demian Maia.

Askren said he never had a call with White prior to joining the UFC and only talked to him when the promotion let him out of his contract so he could box Jake Paul in April 2021.

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Ben Askren admits he thought Tyron Woodley was going to beat up Jake Paul

Jake Paul surpassed Ben Askren’s expectations when he beat former UFC champion Tyron Woodley in their boxing matches.

[autotag]Jake Paul[/autotag] surpassed [autotag]Ben Askren[/autotag]’s expectations.

Former Bellator and ONE Championship title holder Askren jumped into the boxing ring with Paul in April 2021, but was quickly knocked out in Round 1.

The YouTube star went on to defeat former UFC welterweight champion Tyron Woodley twice – once by knockout, which took Askren by surprise.

“No, I thought Tyron was going to beat him up,” Askren told MMA Junkie Radio.

Paul continues to take a jump up in competition as he meets ex-UFC middleweight king Anderson Silva, who has impressed in his two recent wins in the ring over Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. and Tito Ortiz. Paul faces Silva in an eight-round boxing match Saturday at Desert Diamond Arena. The main card airs at 9 p.m. ET on Showtime pay-per-view.

When asked for his prediction, the recently retired Askren didn’t show any interest in the outcome.

“We’ll see,” Askren added. “I don’t really care. I’m kind of indifferent.”

Earlier this week, Askren’s book was released. In “Funky: My Defiant Path Through the Wild World of Combat Sports,” Askren looks back on his journey from wrestling to MMA and the boxing ring. Check out Askren discussing his book and more in the video above.

For complete coverage of the card, check out MMA Junkie’s event page for Paul vs. Silva.

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MMA Junkie Radio #3306: Ben Askren joins the show, Paul vs. Silva predictions, more

Thursday’s edition of MMA Junkie Radio with “Gorgeous” George and “Goze” is here.


Thursday’s edition of MMA Junkie Radio with “Gorgeous” George and “Goze” is here.

On Episode 3,306, the fellas welcome former UFC fighter and ONE Championship king Ben Askren. In addition, they discuss their predictions for Jake Paul vs. Anderson Silva, the training knockout rumors, and more. Tune in!

Stream or download this and all episodes of MMA Junkie Radio over at OmnyStudio. You can also catch it on Apple PodcastsSpotifyStitcher, and more. A new episode of the podcast is released every Monday and Thursday.

Demetrious Johnson says ‘everybody won’ when he was traded for Ben Askren: ‘We’re all eating good now’

Demetrious Johnson explains how both the UFC and ONE Championship can be happy with the result of their trade back in 2018.

ONE Championship flyweight champion [autotag]Demetrious Johnson[/autotag] believes being traded benefitted everyone involved.

Johnson (31-4-1), a former longtime UFC flyweight champion, was traded by the UFC to ONE Championship for [autotag]Ben Askren[/autotag] back in 2018.

At the start, it appeared the UFC won big when formerly unbeaten Olympic wrestler Askren engaged in a barnburner while it lasted in his octagon debut against Robbie Lawler at UFC 235. But Askren didn’t only bring his mat skills to the UFC; he brought his skills on the mic, too, which made him an instant star.

Johnson, who holds the record for most consecutive UFC title defenses at 11, has found continued success in ONE Championship. He thinks Askren’s short, but impactful, stint in the UFC made a star out of Jorge Masvidal, who handed him his first loss with a record-setting flying knee knockout. Masvidal’s shine went on to rub off on other fighters, which Johnson said created a domino effect.

“I think everybody won,” Johnson told MMA Junkie Radio. “Not just the organizations, but I think everybody: Ben Askren, Jorge Masvidal, Leon Edwards, Kamaru Usman, myself. When I say that we all won, we’re all eating good now. So you look at the UFC’s standpoint, when I was there, obviously I wasn’t the highest-selling pay-per-view guy there, and I was also very dominant, so there was not an opportunity for somebody else to be able to make a name for themselves. Then ‘Triple C’ came in, cringe, did his thing. But then I leave, and you get Ben Askren.

“The reason why I say Ben Askren got a chance to eat is because Ben Askren always wanted to be able to compete in the UFC. He got that opportunity, won a couple, then lost, and with his loss was the rise of Jorge Masvidal. And the rise of Jorge Masvidal, ‘Street Jesus,’ going out baptizing people – he fought Nate Diaz and got that ‘BMF’ title, which there’s never been a title like that, and he gave Leon Edwards the five-piece chicken meal in the back of the arena, that kind of put eyeballs on Leon Edwards. Now you have Kamaru Usman, who fought Jorge Masvidal, and Kamaru sent Jorge Masvidal to the shadow of realm.”

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Johnson explained that Usman’s star power skyrocketed after beating Masvidal twice, which went on to benefit Leon Edwards, who dethroned Usman with a dramatic head-kick knockout at UFC 278 to capture the welterweight title – and now the UFC is talking about doing a stadium show in the U.K.

“When Kamaru Usman fought Masvidal, I think that’s where his elevation and his star power went through the roof, because everyone was talking about the ‘BMF,'” Johnson added. “Now you have Kamaru Usman who’s super big and very, very popular, who’s the pound-for-pound best fighter in the world. And now you have Leon Edwards, who just knocked him out, and now Leon Edwards is the king of the welterweight division.”

The UFC got to build new stars, but Johnson got to experience new chapters in his career after a dominant promotional run. He got knocked out for the first time in his career by Adriano Moraes but was able to even the score with a knockout of his own at ONE on Prime Video 1. He also engaged in a mixed rules bout with muay Thai legend Rodtang Jitmuangnon, submitting him in the second round.

But after getting knocked out by Masvidal in five seconds, Askren was submitted by Demian Maia in October 2019, which would mark his final UFC fight. Johnson, on the other hand, just captured the ONE flyweight title and has no intentions of retiring anytime soon.

“Everybody got the opportunity to eat, and everyone’s happy,” Johnson said. “I think if it goes to decide who’s got the best fighters, I think ONE Championship definitely won that ball game by far. Nothing against Ben Askren, but I’m 36, I don’t know how old he is, but I’m still f*cking going. They’re still getting dividends from your boy here. I’m still putting the work in.”

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Who got better deal trading champs: UFC or ONE Championship?

Nearly four years after the infamous trade between Demetrious Johnson and Ben Askren, which organization came out ahead?

Nearly four years ago, the most infamous “trade” in MMA history took place.

Trades aren’t exactly a typical thing in MMA as they are in other professional sports, but the UFC and ONE Championship swapping their former champions in Demetrious Johnson and Ben Askren is a moment in the sport’s history that will be discussed for many years, for a number of reasons.

This past Saturday, Johnson added another shiny belt to his trophy case when he avenged his knockout loss to Adriano Moraes by finishing him with a devastating knee at ONE on Prime Video 1 in Singapore. On the other side of the “trade,” Ben Askren is at home as a retired fighter.

Askren’s UFC run was only three fights. He won his debut at UFC 235 against Robbie Lawler, then recorded two stoppage losses against Jorge Masvidal and Demian Maia before exiting the promotion to box Jake Paul.

On the other hand, Johnson has gone 4-1 under the ONE Championship banner, winning a grand prix championship and the division’s title. Not to mention, winning a custom rules bout that swapped rounds between MMA and muay Thai. Johnson still looks like the best flyweight on the planet, which is why he reclaimed No. 1 in the latest USA TODAY Sports/MMA Junkie flyweight rankings.

So, which promotion got the better end of the deal? Did UFC make a mistake by letting Johnson go?

Our “Spinning Back Clique” panel of Brian “Goze” Garcia, Mike Bohn and Nolan King discuss the trade with host “Gorgeous” George Garcia. You can watch their conversation in the video above, or check out this week’s full episode below.

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Spinning Back Clique: UFC Paris, Demetrious Johnson back on top, Colby Covington and more

MMA Junkie’s weekly “Spinning Back Clique” discusses Demetrious Johnson’s return to champ status, UFC Paris, Colby Covington and more.

Check out this week’s “Spinning Back Clique,” MMA Junkie’s weekly show that takes a spin through the biggest topics in mixed martial arts.

Our panel of Brian “Goze” Garcia, Mike Bohn and Nolan King discuss five topics with host “Gorgeous” George Garcia.

  • One of the greatest fighters in MMA history is back on top. Longtime UFC flyweight champion [autotag]Demetrious Johnson[/autotag] needed a little bit to reach the pinnacle of his new home at ONE Championship, but he captured the promotion’s bantamweight (125 pounds) belt with a knockout of Adriano Moraes at ONE on Prime Video 1. Is he the best flyweight in the world once again, or are the likes of Deiveson Figueiredo and Brandon Moreno still ahead of him?
  • It’s been nearly four years since the UFC and ONE Championship pulled off what amounted to a trade of a pair of star fighters. The UFC released Demetrious Johnson from his deal so he could sign with ONE, and ONE did the same with [autotag]Ben Askren[/autotag] so he could go to the UFC. Askren went 1-2 in the UFC, including an infamous 5-second knockout loss to Jorge Masvidal, and retired from MMA. Johnson has gone 4-1 at ONE and is a champion. Looking back, how did that swap work out for both sides?
  • It’s been just about six months since we’ve seen [autotag]Colby Covington[/autotag] in action. He’s been in the news a bit thanks to his alleged attack by rival and former friend Jorge Masvidal, but he hasn’t been in the cage since he beat Masvidal in the UFC 272 main event in early March. He’s ready to get back to work, and UFC president Dana White says he’s trying to figure out an opponent for him. Who do we think that opponent should be, and when?
  • Former UFC lightweight champion [autotag]Rafael dos Anjos[/autotag] has said he’s done chasing a return to title contention and a shot at the belt and instead just wants to take on other longtime fighters in what amounts to fun, but arguably meaningless matchups. Is that the right stance for him to take publicly? Should the UFC give him the kind of fights he wants instead of matchups with up-and-comers trying to build their ways to contention? And if so, should he get bounced from the rankings to make room for someone who actually cares about having a number next to his name?
  • The UFC sets up shop in France this week for the first time. Plenty of eyeballs will be on UFC Fight Night 209, not just because of the debut in Paris. At the top of the card, [autotag]Ciryl Gane[/autotag] (10-1 MMA, 7-1 UFC) will try to wow his home fans in a heavyweight bout against [autotag]Tai Tuivasa[/autotag] (15-3 MMA, 8-3 UFC). And in the co-main event, former middleweight title challenger [autotag]Marvin Vettori[/autotag] (18-4-1 MMA, 8-3-1 UFC) meets ex-champ [autotag]Robert Whittaker[/autotag] (23-6 MMA, 14-4 UFC). Who has the clearest path to a title shot with a win?

“Spinning Back Clique” is released each Tuesday on MMA Junkie’s YouTube channel. You can watch the full episode in the video above.

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‘I’m in the age bracket’: Dana White responds to Jake Paul’s prediction of knocking UFC boss out

YouTuber-turned-boxer Jake Paul recently predicted their feud would end with him ‘knocking (Dana White) the f*ck out’ in Las Vegas.

LAS VEGAS – [autotag]Dana White[/autotag] seems unfazed by recent threatening comments made by YouTuber-turner-boxer [autotag]Jake Paul[/autotag].

Following the conclusion of UFC on ESPN 30 at the UFC Apex, White was asked about Paul’s recent statement that if he ran into White, their feud would end up with Paul “knocking him the f*ck out.”

The proposition that makes sense to the UFC president who poked fun at Paul’s boxing opponents, including post-UFC-career athletes [autotag]Ben Askren[/autotag] and [autotag]Tyron Woodley[/autotag].

“It actually makes sense,” White told MMA Junkie at the UFC on ESPN 30 post-fight news conference. “I’m 52 years old. I’m in the age bracket of guys he fights, so yeah, I could see him wanting to fight me. It’s all he fights are 50-year-olds.”

White said he doesn’t take Paul’s threat that seriously – at least not enough to organize any legal papers. Like with his fighters, White expects “mean things” to be said in the combat sports world – even ones directed at him.

“Let me tell you what,” White said. “Get in line. There are plenty of people who would like to assault me. Get in line. It’s a long f*cking line, buddy. You’re going to be waiting for a while. No, it doesn’t bother me. This is the business we’re in. I say it all the time about the fighters, too. We are not in the nice guy business. This is a very mean business. I say many mean things about people, too. It’s just part of this game. It’s all good.”

The back-and-forth is the latest chapter in the saga of Paul and White. Although White has long said he’s not interested in doing business with Paul, the YouTuber-turned-boxer has remained relentless in his prodding. He constantly attempts to goad the UFC president while bringing up the issue of fighter pay.

Paul, 24, fights former UFC welterweight champion, Woodley, on Sunday in Cleveland as the headlining match of a Showtime pay-per-view. He will look to advance to 4-0 as a professional boxer against Woodley, a pro boxing debutant.

UFC on ESPN 30 took place Saturday at the UFC Apex. The card aired on ESPN and streamed on ESPN+.

Check out Dana White’s full UFC on ESPN 30 post-fight news conference in the video above.

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Fight Week: Jake Paul could face biggest test against Tyron Woodley

Fight Week: Jake Paul could face biggest test against Tyron Woodley on pay-per-view Saturday.

FIGHT WEEK

YOUTUBER-TURNED-BOXER JACK PAUL RETURNS TO THE RING AGAINST FORMER UFC CHAMPION TYRON WOODLEY ON PAY-PER-VIEW SUNDAY

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JAKE PAUL (3-0, 3 KOs)
VS. TYRON WOODLEY (0-0, 0 KOs)

  • When: Sunday, Aug. 29
  • Where: Rocket Mortgage FieldHouse, Cleveland
  • TV/Stream: Pay-per-view ($59.99)
  • Division: Cruiserweight
  • At stake: No titles
  • Pound-for-pound ranking: None
  • Odds: Paul is slightly more than a 1½-1 favorite (average of multiple outlets)
  • Also on the card: Amanda Serrano vs. Yamileth Mercado, featherweights (for Serrano’s WBC and WBO titles; Daniel Dubois vs. Joe Cusumano, heavyweights; Charles Conwell vs. Mark DeLuca, junior middleweights; Montana Love vs. Ivan Barancyhk, junior welterweights
  • Prediction:
  • Background: Has Jake Paul bitten off more than he can chew this time? The YouTuber-turned-boxer has stopped all three of his opponents, fellow internet star Ali Eson Gib, former NBA player Nate Robinson and retired UFC welterweight Ben Askren. Woodley could be a stiffer challenge. The 39-year-old former UFC champ, who will be making his boxing debut, has limited boxing skills – similar to those of Askren — but he has knockout power. That means this fight could come down to who lands the big punch first. Paul has put the work in to learn the fundamentals of the sport and is improving. However, his ability to hurt his opponents is the main reason he is unbeaten in his short career. Paul will have a size advantage over Woodley, who fought at 170 pounds in mixed martial arts. He’s 6-foot-1 and a natural 200-pounder. Woodley is only 5-9. Woodley has much more experience than Paul in the ring. He has had a reported 27 MMA fights, winning 19 of them (seven by knockout). Also, he has been working with the master – Floyd Mayweather – on his boxing skills. We’ll see how much he has learned in a short time. Bottom line: This is the most-interesting matchup of Paul’s career. Also on the card, knockout artist Amanda Serrano (40-1-1, 30 KOs) will defend her featherweight titles against Yamileth Mercado (18-2, 5 KOs). And heavyweight contender Daniel Dubois (16-1, 15 KOs) continues his comeback against Joe Cusumano (19-3, 17 KOs) in a scheduled 10-round bout. Dubois suffered a broken orbital socket in his knockout loss to Joe Joyce last November. He bounced back by stopping Bogdan Dinu in June.

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Also fighting this weekend: Eridson Garcia (14-1, 9 KOs) faces Armando Frausto (-1-1, 5 KOs) in a 10-round junior lightweight bout Thursday in Humble, Texas (UFC Fight Pass); Kim Clavel (13-0, 2 KOs) takes on Maria Soledad Vargas (15-3-1, 1 KO) in a 10-round junior flyweight fight Saturday in Montreal (FITE).

Fight Week: Jake Paul could face biggest test against Tyron Woodley

Fight Week: Jake Paul could face biggest test against Tyron Woodley on pay-per-view Saturday.

FIGHT WEEK

YOUTUBER-TURNED-BOXER JACK PAUL RETURNS TO THE RING AGAINST FORMER UFC CHAMPION TYRON WOODLEY ON PAY-PER-VIEW SUNDAY

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JAKE PAUL (3-0, 3 KOs)
VS. TYRON WOODLEY (0-0, 0 KOs)

  • When: Sunday, Aug. 29
  • Where: Rocket Mortgage FieldHouse, Cleveland
  • TV/Stream: Pay-per-view ($59.99)
  • Division: Cruiserweight
  • At stake: No titles
  • Pound-for-pound ranking: None
  • Odds: Paul is slightly more than a 1½-1 favorite (average of multiple outlets)
  • Also on the card: Amanda Serrano vs. Yamileth Mercado, featherweights (for Serrano’s WBC and WBO titles; Daniel Dubois vs. Joe Cusumano, heavyweights; Charles Conwell vs. Mark DeLuca, junior middleweights; Montana Love vs. Ivan Barancyhk, junior welterweights
  • Prediction:
  • Background: Has Jake Paul bitten off more than he can chew this time? The YouTuber-turned-boxer has stopped all three of his opponents, fellow internet star Ali Eson Gib, former NBA player Nate Robinson and retired UFC welterweight Ben Askren. Woodley could be a stiffer challenge. The 39-year-old former UFC champ, who will be making his boxing debut, has limited boxing skills – similar to those of Askren — but he has knockout power. That means this fight could come down to who lands the big punch first. Paul has put the work in to learn the fundamentals of the sport and is improving. However, his ability to hurt his opponents is the main reason he is unbeaten in his short career. Paul will have a size advantage over Woodley, who fought at 170 pounds in mixed martial arts. He’s 6-foot-1 and a natural 200-pounder. Woodley is only 5-9. Woodley has much more experience than Paul in the ring. He has had a reported 27 MMA fights, winning 19 of them (seven by knockout). Also, he has been working with the master – Floyd Mayweather – on his boxing skills. We’ll see how much he has learned in a short time. Bottom line: This is the most-interesting matchup of Paul’s career. Also on the card, knockout artist Amanda Serrano (40-1-1, 30 KOs) will defend her featherweight titles against Yamileth Mercado (18-2, 5 KOs). And heavyweight contender Daniel Dubois (16-1, 15 KOs) continues his comeback against Joe Cusumano (19-3, 17 KOs) in a scheduled 10-round bout. Dubois suffered a broken orbital socket in his knockout loss to Joe Joyce last November. He bounced back by stopping Bogdan Dinu in June.

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Also fighting this weekend: Eridson Garcia (14-1, 9 KOs) faces Armando Frausto (-1-1, 5 KOs) in a 10-round junior lightweight bout Thursday in Humble, Texas (UFC Fight Pass); Kim Clavel (13-0, 2 KOs) takes on Maria Soledad Vargas (15-3-1, 1 KO) in a 10-round junior flyweight fight Saturday in Montreal (FITE).

Jake Paul reveals ‘hit list’ of 13 potential opponents – including his own kin

No one was safe from Jake Paul’s checklist – not boxers, UFC fighters, celebrities, nor family members.

In 2021, callouts are frequently given and received by YouTuber-turned-boxing-star [autotag]Jake Paul[/autotag]. That’s nothing new.

However, Paul took things to the next level Saturday when he compiled a giant inventory of potential opponents – past, current, and future – he hopes to knock off his “hit list” as time goes on.

His three past opponents were listed, as well as his Aug. 29 opponent, Tyron Woodley. But there was a host of new names, as well, who ranged from UFC fighters to boxing champions to celebrities – and even a family member.

Check out Jake Paul’s full “hit list” below: