Marco Simone serves up a drivable par 4 where Ryder Cup dreams might go to die

No. 16 is one of a trio of short par 4s that will test strategy, skill and nerves in the Ryder Cup.

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Drivable par 4s are the most interesting holes in the pro game. Measuring somewhere south of 350 yards, the best of them entice the game’s top players to grab driver –  or sometimes 3-wood, and in a few cases with the longest hitters, even a driving iron – and smash the ball onto the green in pursuit of an eagle, birdie at worst.

There is, of course, a flip side: bogeys, double bogeys, humiliation and a tumble down the scoreboard when things don’t work out as planned.

These short par 4s are sometimes called half-par holes, but even pros who only halfway commit or halfway execute are prone to full-blown scorecard disasters. And with so many options and strategies available – especially when factoring in match play – the short par 4s are where the fun will begin at this week’s Ryder Cup in Rome.

It’s a whole different galaxy of distance and options than encountered by most amateur players, who are far more likely to experience the thrill or despair of a somewhat drivable par 3 than a reachable par 4. Tour players are a different kind of animal, with the advantage typically tilted to the biggest guns in what used to be a knife fight.

Each year we see several drivable par 4s send PGA Tour pros into fits. Always in the spotlight is No. 10 at Riviera and its almost unhittable green. It’s the same story at No. 17 at TPC Scottsdale’s Stadium Course, with water in play left and a tucked Sunday pin location – undoubtably a better strategic hole than the amphitheater par-3 16th that has gained so much fame in recent decades. These holes and dozens of others have oversized effects on eventual prize payouts.

In recent years, even the major championships have embraced their drivable par 4s. No. 6 at Los Angeles Country Club thrilled and confused in this year’s U.S. Open – Wyndham Clark just missed the green with a driving iron in the final round but produced a brilliant up-and-down from the gunch for birdie en route to victory. Likewise, Justin Thomas grabbed control of the playoff at the 2022 PGA Championship with a 3-wood blast that carried a creek to bound onto the putting surface of No. 17 at Southern Hills. Glory beckons on these short holes.

This week’s Ryder Cup at Marco Simone Golf and Country Club in Rome promises such fireworks with several drivable par 4s. The fifth measures just 302 yards, but a pond guards the approach. No. 11 clocks in at 329 yards with a deep depression to the right of the green to gobble up wayward aggression. Both of these holes are within range for these Ryder Cuppers, but at what risk?

But 5 and 11 are mere warmups for No. 16, where plenty of high-pressure matches are likely to end and some Ryder Cup dreams are apt to crater. Just 303 yards long, the 16th has a small pond guarding the right side of the green. The hole is within reach, but so is the water. It’s do or die with the world watching.

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A bunker plopped into the center of the fairway some 235 yards off the tee only complicates things, as does the water crossing 60 yards short of the putting green. Wary or wise players can lay up short of the center bunker and still hit a wedge into the green, or they can try the more unlikely path of carrying the bunker yet remaining short of the creek to set up an even shorter wedge approach – don’t count on too many players attempting that route.

Or … they can fire away at the green. It’s just right there, within reach, tucked between three bunkers and the acqua. Coming so late in the matches, it could be the one decision and one swing that decides who is the GOAT and who is the scapegoat.

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The StrackaLine yardage map for No. 16 at Marco Simone Golf & Country Club in Rome, site of the 2023 Ryder Cup (Courtesy of StrackaLine)

No. 16 has seen its share of splashdowns in the Italian Open since the course was redesigned by Dave Sampson and European Golf Design, with American architect Tom Fazio involved as a consultant hired by the club. Most notably, Rory McIlroy pushed his tee ball into the drink while in contention at last year’s Italian and eventually finished fourth. Will that memory provide motivation or scar tissue for Europe’s highest-ranked player and arguably the best driver of the golf ball of his generation?

Of course, not all tee shots that miss the 16th green will find the water. Some might land in a bunker, or tall rough on a downhill slope with the pond beyond, or even the closely cropped fairway approach. The players and their stats masters have to factor if playing a shorter second shot from any of those areas is more advantageous than playing a full wedge from 120 yards back in the fairway. Yes, the goal is to drive the green, but most players who try won’t find the putting surface, instead relying on a spot of luck and their elite short games.

Ryder Cup format matters, too. In the fourball matches – two-man teams with each man playing his own ball, and the lowest score for each team counts – plan to see at least one player on each side swinging for the green on the short par 4s, perhaps after his partner lays up safely. Things are more interesting in foursomes, in which the alternate-shot format often focuses on not leaving your partner in a bad spot. Then the gloves come off in singles, each man (and his team of advisors) having to choose the best route to birdie or better by considering his strengths versus those of his opponent as well as his own bravado versus his own demons.

There are so many options, so many possible outcomes. The realistic scores range from 2 to 6. Expectations are high, as are demands on length plus precision multiplied by some unknown confidence factor.

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Brian Harman plays from a greenside bunker on No. 16 during a practice round at Marco Simone before the 2023 Ryder Cup in Rome. Players who try to drive the green but miss might find themselves in such a spot, with a long sand shot to a green backed by water. (Paul Ellis/AFP via Getty Images)

Both team captains were titans of the precision and confidence parts. European captain Luke Donald was never known for his distance off the tee but he climbed to No. 1 in the world, and American captain Zach Johnson proved to be the master of the layup by never going for a par-5 green in two en route to his 2007 green jacket. What will be their marching orders? Bet that reams of data will be analyzed figuring out go versus no-go.

There’s no doubt today’s professionals can reach the green of any of the short par 4s at Marco Simone, even guys such as American Brian Harman, who dominated this year’s British Open with a mix of precision iron play and gutsy putting. Short in comparison to Ryder Cup bombers such as McIlroy or European rookie Ludvig Aberg, Harman is still more than capable of driving the ball 300 yards downhill. But will he try? Better question: Should he?

On No. 16 in particular with the hopes of two continents on the line, it’s distance versus control, carpet bombing versus a sniper sneaking up on you. Expect to see eagle putts that knock opponents onto their heels, and also know there might be watery crashes. Hang on to your headcovers.

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Mickey Loomis not rushing Saints coach changes, offseason strategy

The Saints just had their worst season in decades, but GM Mickey Loomis isn’t in a rush to start making changes or develop an offseason strategy:

Don’t look for any immediate changes from the New Orleans Saints after their worst season in almost 20 years. General manager and executive vice president Mickey Loomis isn’t in a rush to evaluate his team and consider staff changes. When asked about his plans for the offseason, Loomis says he doesn’t have a plan yet.

“Yeah I think, well, first of all,” Loomis said during his weekly WWL radio spot with Mike Hoss, gathering his thoughts, “I would like to take a little bit of a break here and let the emotions of this season dissipate, so we can view it from a lens that is a step back. We’ll kind of step back this week and then get into those evaluations that you’re talking about next week, and eventually formulate our plans for this offseason.”

Sure, there’s something to be said for a patient approach. Decisions made in the heat of the moment can come back to bite you. And many job candidates  on playoff teams aren’t even able to interview for open positions for another week or two, much less be hired and introduced. But sitting on your hands in these circumstances doesn’t inspire a lot of confidence. It’s clear that, for example, massive overhaul is needed for the Saints offense — they just scored their fewest points in a single season (330) since 1995, and that’s with the benefits of a 17-game schedule. Offensive coordinator Pete Carmichael Jr. was a bust in his turn as a play caller.

So it’s really discouraging to see Loomis kicking his feet up for a week after a lost season that he built. He took the bait when the Eagles came calling about an ill-advised 2022 draft trade, giving up a 2023 first round pick that’s slotted at 10th overall in exchange for Trevor Penning, a player whose rookie season began and ended with foot injuries. He botched the search for Sean Payton’s successor at head coach and hitched their fortunes to a couple of washouts at quarterback. Now they’re back where they started with fewer means of cleaning up this mess.

And it doesn’t sound like any accountability is coming. When asked who will evaluate his performance as general manager, Loomis replied: “I don’t know, Mrs. Benson, I guess? That’s happening constantly, during the course of the year I’m visiting with Mrs. Benson daily, so that really happens every day during the entire season, the entire year, really. It’s not a formal sit-down-and-give-you-a-review that you might have with some other companies, so it’s really a little different.”

We shouldn’t anticipate any big changes on top of the organization. Loomis is the league’s longest-tenured general manager and Benson has spoken often about how integral he has been to the team’s success. But it’s really difficult to not read this situation as, well, sort of aimless. There’s no sense of urgency being expressed after a season that was filled with secondhand embarrassment. Hopefully the Saints show some initiative soon before this situation snowballs.

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Chiefs coaches staying flexible with game delays due to COVID-19

Chiefs coaches are working hard to remain “calm and poised” despite scheduling changes.

The Kansas City Chiefs have already dealt with one game postponement this season due to positive COVID-19 cases. The news came down yesterday afternoon that the Chiefs’ Week 6 game against Buffalo Bills on “Thursday Night Football” has tentatively been moved to Sunday.

Given all the uncertainty surrounding potential game delays and the 2020 season in general, the coaching staff in Kansas City has learned to be adaptive. For defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo, he’s essentially forgotten about what’s considered a routine week in the NFL.

“I’m smiling because there’s been nothing routine about this year,” Spagnuolo told reporters on Thursday. “The defensive coaches and I were talking about how we have not had a normal Sunday to Sunday game week. We haven’t had one. Not even going back to training camp and with that Thursday night game. It’s just exactly what you said. I’m not sure what normal is. You could say normal from last year. I guess maybe we’re kind of getting used to it. We’re in the chaos. Be calm and poised in the chaotic circumstances we’re in and be ready to roll. Just have to stay flexible, right?”

As for Chiefs offensive coordinator Eric Bieniemy, he has some experience with games being rescheduled. He was on the Minnesota Vikings staff back in 2010 when they had a number of reschedules due to severe weather. There was a Sunday night game against the Philadelphia Eagles that was delayed until Tuesday due to a massive snowstorm in Philadelphia. He’s learned to keep an open mind about these things since then, he’s also learned to take advantage of the extra time by getting some rest.

“One thing you learn in this profession is to always remain flexible, especially with everything that we’re dealing with,” Bieniemy explained. “With what happened this particular week, though, I’m not a guy that’s going to look ahead because one thing I want to do, I always want to focus on the task. Our staff will start ahead, I just want to make sure that I’ve got all these particular plays and situations in my head, so I don’t cloud that particular vision. But I’ve got to let you in on a little secret, I took a nap, and it felt damn good.”

While the team did get an extra day to rest and prepare, on the other end they get a shorter week, with one less day to recover and prepare for the next opponent. It presents a challenge for the coaches and players.

“So, we played on Monday night, hey, a national crowd, we got to play and put on a performance,” Bieniemy said. “I know everybody wasn’t happy with the performance, but a win is a win. But the next thing, hey, we lose a day, it’s okay, we grind. This is what we do. We get back to it and it’s all about the Raiders right now. And one more thing, it’s all about the Raiders and we’re one week from kickoff against Buffalo.”

The team will focus on what they can control for the time being and that isn’t when the games are played. They can focus on how they prepare for the next week. Right now, that means getting prepared to face a Las Vegas Raiders team that is hungry for a win in Kansas City.

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Chiefs GM Brett Veach explains strategy for player evaluation during 2020 offseason

How will Kansas City Chiefs GM Brett Veach adjust without minicamp, OTAs and preseason?

Kansas City Chiefs GM Brett Veach has his work cut out for him this offseason. He already navigated massive contract extensions for star players like Patrick Mahomes, Chris Jones and Travis Kelce, but there are still challenges ahead related to the unique structure of the 2020 offseason.

Veach joined Mitch Holthus and Matt McMullen on “Training Camp Live” this morning. Veach was asked by Holthus about how the lack of minicamp, OTAs and the preseason will adjust the way the team plans to evaluate players this offseason. Not just players in Kansas City either, but those on rosters across the league.

“It’s challenging,” Veach began. “Everyone, obviously, is in the same predicament. We’ve done a really good job of scouring through so much preseason tape. You look at guys like Demone Harris or Charvarius Ward, Alex Brown — who was our active roster for the Super Bowl — Antonio Hamilton this year. All of these guys, we first caught wind of during their preseason tape. So it puts us at a little bit of a disadvantage, just because I feel our personnel staff, led by Mike Borgonzi and Tim Terry, they do such a good job of combing through the pro tape. It’s a little bit of a disadvantage for us, because I think we were really ahead of the game in that regard.”

Veach felt the Chiefs were ahead of the curve when it came to evaluating preseason tape and acquiring players during roster cuts. They traded for Charvarius Ward ahead of the 2018 season. They added guys like Alex Brown and Demone Harris during the 2019 season. But the tool that allowed those things to happen — preseason tape — isn’t an option this year. So what will be the adjustment that Veach and his staff make to account for this unique feature of the 2020 offseason? They’ll treat it a little bit more like they do the 2020 NFL Draft.

“Before the Combine, we have all that college prep,” Veach explained. “We watch all that college tape to get our draft board right. I almost feel like we’ll go through another wave of that before the cutdown date (Sept. 6). Since we don’t have pro preseason tape we’re going to have to go back and watch the 2019 college tape one more time to get our emergency board right. We’ll probably have to go back and watch some of these young guys in preseason a year or two years ago. So it will be a little bit different process, but I think we’ll work hard to get it right.”

Players that the Chiefs add to the practice squad after roster cuts, well, it could come down to their college tape and the evaluations the staff did on those players ahead of the draft. It might not reveal the same information as the team would get with pro tape from the preseason, but it’s better than blindly throwing darts. At the same time, the lack of preseason tape this year creates an advantage for the team when it comes to the 80-man offseason roster.

“One of the advantages this year, we do feel like we have a lot of talent on this roster,” Veach said. “We might not be able to keep all of that talent. You guys know how it works. There’s a lot of times we get to the third and forth preseason game and some of these young guys, maybe they struggled early on, maybe they didn’t do too much the first two weeks of preseason and then, ‘Boom.’ All of a sudden it all comes together in the fourth preseason game when your roster is kind of decided. Then you’re just hoping and praying that they’ll make it through the waiver wire. Now, on the plus side, the tape won’t be available and if it does happen, we’ll be able to sneak some guys through and continue to work and develop them.”

There’s a positive and a negative to the lack of the preseason. While the Chiefs might not be able to poach talent from other teams using preseason tape, the hope is that they’ll be able to retain several of their own players during roster cuts. Then those players can develop on the practice squad throughout the course of the season.

While the process will be different for Veach and his staff this year, the hope is that the end result is the same — finding young talent that can compete, create depth and grow with the team.

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Jeff Ireland talks Saints’ 2020 draft strategy, value of Jameis Winston

New Orleans Saints assistant general manager Jeff Ireland spoke with ESPN’s Matt Mosley to review his team’s 2020 NFL Draft picks.

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How have changes in response to the novel coronavirus affected the New Orleans Saints, putting them on the spot in the most unusual offseason in recent memory? According to assistant general manager Jeff Ireland, the lack of contact with first-year players picked and signed after the 2020 NFL Draft pushed the team to take an approach that valued quality over quantity.

Ireland joined “The Matt Mosley Show” on ESPN 1660 in central Texas, reviewing how his team performed and projecting where they’re headed. He also took time to discuss the ongoing contract talks with free agent quarterback Jameis Winston, the former first-overall pick by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

“Well, look when you don’t have a bunch of picks it takes the fire out of the scouts for sure,” Ireland admitted, when asked how he felt about months of hard work resulting in just four picks made. It’s a process he’s intimately familiar with as the team’s college scouting director. “We had a philosophy going into the draft where we needed ‘quality over quantity’ and it’s the benefit of having a pretty good roster, a veteran roster, and good depth.

“And then with the pandemic going on, and virtually no offseason program, no OTA’s, no rookie minicamps, we felt like we really needed to hone in on exactly who we needed to draft, who could make our team, and who might potentially start.”

Ireland clarified the need for players who could learn fast, with limited contact with the coaching staff, which the Saints prioritized by targeting specific prospects earlier in the draft. For example, the team’s first pick, Michigan center Cesar Ruiz, made a great impression on the Saints during a brief meeting at the NFL Scouting Combine where his high football intelligence was on display.

As for Winston: the veteran provides a nice buffer in case Taysom Hill gets injured while playing one of the many other positions on his resume. All it takes is one broken finger, Ireland said, for the backup to be taken out of a game. And then Winston could step in as an experienced option behind Brees, if need be.

Of course it’s a great landing spot for Winston to develop, too. Ireland also credited the quarterback’s self-awareness in recognizing how much he stands to gain by joining the Saints, and what he might learn from a coaching staff stocked with acute football minds.

“It’s a compliment to Jameis Winston to understand where he’s at in this world and sign a one-year deal here, and learn behind (Drew Brees),” Ireland said, rattling off a list of assistants including offensive coordinator Pete Carmichael, quarterbacks coach Joe Lombardi, and oh yeah, head coach Sean Payton.

He added, “Jameis Winston will learn more football in a year than he has in his lifetime.”

You can listen to the full interview where we’ve linked it below, or by following this link:

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How the Saints can win (or lose) the first round of the 2020 NFL Draft

The New Orleans Saints have a path to dominating the first round of the 2020 NFL Draft, but the path isn’t without its pitfalls and hurdles.

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Few teams enjoy the depth and quality of talent that the New Orleans Saints have assembled before the 2020 NFL Draft, stocking their locker room with Pro Bowl talents and veterans who have spent years working together.

Even their biggest immediate roster needs — at linebacker and wide receiver — would be compliments to standouts like Michael Thomas and Demario Davis. The Saints don’t have a glaring position that they must address.

Still, there are paths forward that end in success or even failure.

How to ace it with an A grade

Adding a blue-chip prospect at either of those top two spots would be nice; it’d be even better if the Saints can make a move back and add more picks, considering how they’re tied for the fewest selections in this year’s draft.

So here’s a perfect scenario: the Saints make a trade down a few slots, adding a couple of mid-round picks. And they’re fortunate to have both of the LSU prospects fans have been focused on available between linebacker Patrick Queen and wide receiver Justin Jefferson.

Either of those players could do a lot to improve the team. Queen could be an immediate upgrade and provide long-term stability. Jefferson’s presence might help the Saints get over the hump in the playoffs and finally score 30-plus points again. We won’t complain either way.

How to flunk with an F grade

However, there’s also a path to disaster ahead of us. There’s an argument to make that it features a quarterback getting picked in a must-win year for Drew Brees. Yes, the Saints need to prepare for the future — eventually. But their focus right now should be centered on surrounding Brees with help so that the Saints can win another Super Bowl title with him under center. Adding a clipboard-holder with their most valuable draft choice runs against that philosophy.

However, it might work out. The Green Bay Packers proved that a smooth transition is possible, having gone from Brett Favre to Aaron Rodgers. It’s just telling that those easy torch-passings seem to happen once every other decade or so.

Another scenario to fear: drafting a running back in the first round, possibly in a trade up. Even if this is the last year Alvin Kamara plays in New Orleans, the position can be addressed later in the draft. As fun as Jonathan Taylor or D’Andre Swift may be to watch, the Saints should not pursue either of them or another running back early this year. It’s just not a wise investment.

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Saints execs talk draft pick strategy: ‘there’s nothing to say that five (picks) can’t be six’

New Orleans Saints coach Sean Payton discussed the depth at wide receiver in the 2020 NFL Draft and acknowledged a trade down is possible.

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What are the New Orleans Saints going to do in the 2020 NFL Draft? While it’s too early to say which positions (much less specific prospects) they’ll be targeting, Saints coach Sean Payton offered his take on the areas he’s been most impressed with so far during an interview with NewOrleansSaints.com’s John DeShazier.

“After doing the front-board meeting, certainly it’s a deep draft at receiver,” Payton said, referencing a conference with college scouting director Jeff Ireland and his staff. “We think at defensive back as well, and defensive line. Any time I say that, there’s certainly a lot of talent at the other positions. But if you said what stood out in our meetings in the last month, it would have been those positions.”

While receiver is easily the pick for New Orleans’ biggest roster need — Michael Thomas, the reigning Offensive Player of the Year, was targeted 129 more times than the next-best wideout — Saints general manager Mickey Loomis was quick to emphasize that the team isn’t zeroing in on the options at the top of the draft.

“There’s players every year at every position and I think when you look at it, it’s like, ‘OK, how deep does it go?'” Loomis explained. “Are you getting into the middle rounds where you can feel really good about getting a guy that can be a significant contributor, not just early but down the road? My sense of it is, so far, it’s pretty deep.”

While every team and evaluator will have their own opinions on the depth of this year’s draft class at wide receiver, ESPN’s Mel Kiper Jr. offered a bold take, speculating that as many as 25 to 30 wideouts could be selected in the first three rounds. If that’s the case, the Saints would be wise to consider trading down.

The problem with that is their draft trade history; Loomis laughed at the notion that the Saints never trade down in last year’s pre-draft press conference, admitting, “There’s a notion because there’s history . . . We’d be open to trading back if the timing is right and if the value is right.”

An aggressive approach has been the preference in the modern era of New Orleans football. The Saints have traded up in every draft Payton has overseen except for his first year on the job, back in 2006 (the Saints also stood pat in the 2012 draft, when Payton was suspended). They’ve traded down just twice in the last 14 years, in 2006 and 2007 — when Payton was building his roster from the ground up, looking to acquire veterans and extra draft capital.

Still, trading down isn’t a maneuver Payton is ready to rule out altogether: “And there’s nothing to say that five (picks) can’t be six as you get closer, relative to where you’re picking and whether you want to make any trades. But last year, we were all real pleased with what we were able to do with some of the ammo we had a year ago, and really bring in a number of players that helped us”

Working with just five picks again in 2020 (the Saints were shorthanded last year after previously trading for Marcus Davenport and Teddy Bridgewater), Payton was encouraged by his team’s ability to supplement a draft class that was short on numbers with high-impact undrafted rookies like Deonte Harris and Shy Tuttle, adding, “We felt like we had a real good draft without maybe the full allotment of picks. This year, I think we’ll have plenty of those opportunities again.”

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What resources do the Saints have to work with in 2020 offseason?

The New Orleans Saints currently rank sixth-worst in both projected 2020 salary cap space and in cumulative 2020 NFL Draft pick value.

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It won’t surprise anyone that the New Orleans Saints are strapped for cash and draft picks in 2020. The team’s strategy of maximizing their resources has created a cycle of spending future assets to win now, and it’s resulted in the best three-year stretch in Saints history.

So expect that to continue this offseason. The Saints will not hesitate to trade next year’s draft picks to move up and target a prospect they really believe in, and they’re also willing to get creative in contract structures to fit everyone in beneath the salary cap. The situations in each area are going to change whenever the new NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement is ratified and once this year’s compensatory draft picks are awarded, so don’t look at these numbers as more than well-educated guesses. But where do the Saints stand right now?

We’ll start with the salary cap. The analysts at Over The Cap are working with an estimated 2020 salary cap of $200 million, which has the Saints with just under $9.4 million in cap space. That ranks sixth-lowest around the league, but at least the Saints aren’t starting out in the red this year. However, Over The Cap also lists the Saints with 56 players under contract, which reflects the voided deals with Drew Brees, Teddy Bridgewater, and A.J. Klein; while each of their contracts are up in March, their contracts are technically still on the books. Those three players are the difference between tying for the 10th-fewest players signed for 2020 and the 14th-most, which reflects where teams stand right now in filling out their 90-man offseason rosters.

What about the draft? Tankathon has put together a cumulative value of each team’s current picks, based off the Jimmy Johnson model, and the Saints sit close to the bottom of the pack. That’s because they’ve already traded their 2020 second-round pick (as part of a package that netted starting center Erik McCoy and versatile safety C.J. Gardner-Johnson) and their seventh-round pick (for cornerback Eli Apple, a former starter headed for free agency).

The 2020 Saints draft class currently has a total value of 992.4, which ranks sixth-worst in the NFL. Their only selections in the top 100 will come at Nos. 24 and 88, and their three remaining picks will be pushed back once compensatory draft picks are allotted. Naturally, the established, aggressive Saints draft strategy of trading up means they’ll probably try to make a move on draft day.

So, to recap: for now, the Saints rank sixth-worst in both projected 2020 salary cap space and in draft pick value. But as we’ve seen before, that probably won’t be a big hurdle for Saints coach Sean Payton, general manager Mickey Loomis, and their staff. It’s shaping up for another fascinating offseason in New Orleans.

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