Bedlam basketball could be returning in 2024, according to Jon Rothstein

Oklahoma and Oklahoma State might not be done facing each other on the basketball court.

With the Oklahoma Sooners moving to the [autotag]SEC[/autotag] and the Oklahoma State Cowboys staying in the [autotag]Big 12[/autotag], the [autotag]Bedlam[/autotag] rivalry between the two rival schools had looked to be lost.

One of the best in-state rivalries in college sports may not survive conference realignment in every sport, but men’s basketball sounds like it’s on track to keep going.

CBS Sports’ college basketball insider Jon Rothstein took to social media Monday morning to let fans know that, while no contracts have been signed yet, Bedlam hoops may be returning in mid-December.

Rothstein had OSU head coach [autotag]Steve Lutz[/autotag] on his podcast “College Hoops Today’ and Lutz told him that the game is on track to be played at the Paycom Center in Oklahoma City. The arena is currently home to the NBA’s Oklahoma City Thunder.

Though it wouldn’t have the same feel as a game at Lloyd Noble or Gallagher-Iba, getting the rivalry back in a sport as popular as men’s basketball is a great start. This could be the domino needed to get Bedlam to return in other sports as well.

The atmosphere in the Paycom Center should be a pretty raucous one, given the debate about which school has run away from playing the game in other sports. By the middle of December, we should have a pretty good feel for how the Sooners and Cowboys are looking on the court as well.

While we’re at it, a Bedlam baseball series at Bricktown Ballpark or a Bedlam softball series at Devon Park would be a must-watch. Women’s basketball could follow suit after men’s hoops and play at Paycom or at the BOK Center.

And of course, a regular season Bedlam football game may be the furthest from returning.

But I for one have no problem if [autotag]Joe Castiglione[/autotag] and [autotag]Chad Weiberg[/autotag] want to hash out a home-and-home for a future nonconference matchup. Those would automatically become two of the most-anticipated games on the schedules for both the teams and the fanbases.

And who knows, maybe with the expanded 12-team [autotag]College Football Playoff[/autotag], Bedlam football could be coming back sooner rather than later.

Bedlam no more: Athletic Directors cite scheduling as reason for lost rivalry game

Per The Action Network’s Brett McMurphy, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State are not planning a nonconference schedule that include Bedlam once OU moves to the SEC.

The announcement of Oklahoma’s future move to the SEC sent shockwaves throughout college football. From a local perspective, it not only surprised Oklahomans but created a sense of animosity from the Sooners’ in-state rival, Oklahoma State.

In the aftermath of Oklahoma’s acceptance into the SEC, Oklahoma State President Kayse Shrum shared her thoughts on the move.

We are disappointed by the lack of engagement and transparency from our colleagues at OU over the past months on a matter with serious ramifications for our state. We have historically worked together to advance our state and address issues based on a partnership built on trust. To that end, we will continue to work with purpose to the advancement of our state and the betterment of our fellow Oklahomans. In the ever-changing college athletic landscape, we will honor our values and ethics as we consider the next steps. Our commitment to our student-athletes is top of mind, and their best interests will be represented prominently. We enjoy a proud athletic heritage with more national championships than any other Big 12 university, and we will aggressively pursue the opportunities ahead. Additionally, our university enjoys a great brand known for education, research, and service, and we will move forward with strength. — Shrum

No mincing words there with her thoughts on the University of Oklahoma. Mike Gundy didn’t hold back either when asked about the future of Bedlam.

I don’t think it will. I just don’t think there’s a business side of it that…I don’t make that decision. I guess Dr. Shrum and Chad Weiberg, they could do whatever they wanted or the board. I don’t know who’s involved in this. I don’t think it’s a realistic thing that it’s going to happen based on the business side of power-five conference football in the Big 12 or the SEC. That’s just my opinion on it. – Gundy

We’ve known Oklahoma State’s thoughts on the matter for some time. OU President Joseph Harroz and Athletic Director Joe Castiglione have maintained that they’d like the game to continue. According to Brett McMurphy of Action Sports, the two sides don’t see a way forward for Bedlam due to scheduling.

McMurphy spoke with the athletic directors of both schools. Chad Weiberg of Oklahoma State and Castiglione of Oklahoma. Oklahoma State’s lack of interest, combined with the reality that nonconference scheduling is planned out so far ahead that both schools are pretty well full, makes it challenging to see a path forward for Bedlam in the next decade.

Oklahoma has planned home and home matchups with SMU, Michigan, Nebraska, and Clemson. Oklahoma State has Arizona State, Arkansas, Nebraska, Alabama, Oregon, and Colorado on the books for future nonconference matchups.

According to McMurphy, OU and OSU prefer to schedule just one Power Five opponent in nonconference. So that provides little room for Bedlam.

Oklahoma and Oklahoma State will lock up in mid-November in a game that will have Big 12 title and College Football Playoff implications. It could also be the last Bedlam game for the foreseeable future. While the move to the SEC isn’t expected until 2025, there’s a chance it could come earlier if OU and Texas are willing to pay the price.

While the SEC is exciting, it is a shame that Bedlams won’t be a part of the regular schedule. Hopefully, a time comes when the two schools can come together and make the game happen. It may be a lopsided rivalry, but it’s one that means a lot for both schools and for the state of Oklahoma.

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Oklahoma State athletic director Chad Weiberg wants Bedlam to continue in all sports but football once Oklahoma leaves for SEC

Oklahoma State athletic director Chad Weiberg said the Cowboys’ athletic department wants to continue Bedlam in all sports but football.

Oklahoma State athletic director Chad Weiberg provided an update on the future of the Bedlam Series.

Weiberg said Thursday at the Sports Business Journal Intercollegiate Athletics Forum in Las Vegas that the Cowboys’ athletics department hopes to continue the Bedlam rivalry with Oklahoma in all sports except football.

Action Network’s Brett McMurphy shared Weiberg’s comments on Twitter.

While Weiberg didn’t rule out Bedlam continuing in football, he noted how future schedules could act as a roadblock.

“I’m not saying we would never play them, but logistics need to be worked out. There are a lot of unanswered questions,” Weiberg said per McMurphy’s tweet.

The future of the Bedlam series has been in doubt ever since Oklahoma and Texas accepted invitations to join the Southeastern Conference. OU and Texas leadership have stated that they intend to remain in the Big 12 conference until the league’s media grant of rights deal expires on June 30, 2025.

Naturally, it again became a storyline leading up to this season’s edition of Bedlam. Oklahoma State head football coach Mike Gundy addressed the future of the rivalry on Nov. 22 and said his expectation was that the series’ future was in jeopardy.

“I don’t think it will. I just don’t think there’s a business side of it that…I don’t make that decision. I guess Dr. Shrum and Chad Weiberg, they could do whatever they wanted or the board. I don’t know who’s involved in this. I don’t think it’s a realistic thing that it’s going to happen based on the business side of power-five conference football in the Big 12 or the SEC. That’s just my opinion on it. I mean, I could be wrong and I’m not getting that from anybody. I’m just answering the question you asked me,” Gundy said.

Gundy referenced the new members that will be joining the Big 12 in the coming seasons—BYU, Cincinnati, Houston and UCF—and said it’s unlikely Oklahoma State would want to play Bedlam in addition to its existing non-conference commitments and future conference schedule.

“So, that’s 10 power-five conference [games], so if you’re going to go back into this game, you would be willing to play 11 out of a 12-game season, which would be extremely difficult,” Gundy said.

Gundy also discussed how adding another difficult non-conference opponent could affect Oklahoma State’s financial bottom line.

“And, from a business standpoint, we all know this. The more success and games you win in football is a huge revenue avenue for your athletic department and your university, because the more you win in football, enrollment goes up. That’s the fact. Marketing money goes up. There’s a huge amount of money involved in that. So, you would say, if we were running a company and you’re in a business standpoint, somebody would have to make a decision. Do you want to risk some of that and how many other teams across the country that are competing to get into the final four are willing to play 11 conference games and only have one non-conference based on the amount of money that could be sitting there at the end? Whether you like it or not, I’m guessing that’s what’s going to take place,” Gundy said.

Oklahoma State snapped what had been a six-game losing streak in Bedlam by rallying to beat Oklahoma 37-33 on Nov. 27.

Oklahoma true freshman quarterback Caleb Williams passed for 252 yards and three touchdowns against the Cowboys, but the Sooners’ offense was held scoreless in the second half.

Redshirt junior running back Kennedy Brooks carried 22 times for 139 yards against Oklahoma State.

The two teams are set to meet on Nov. 19, 2022, in what will be Oklahoma’s regular season home finale next season.

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‘I don’t think it will’: Mike Gundy doubts Bedlam rivalry will continue after Oklahoma Sooners exit for SEC

Oklahoma State head football coach Mike Gundy said that he doesn’t think the Bedlam rivalry will continue after OU exits for the SEC.

Oklahoma and Texas made waves this summer by accepting invitations to join the Southeastern Conference.

After the 14 SEC presidents and chancellors unanimously voted to extend conference membership invitations to Oklahoma and Texas, it took just a day for the two universities to accept.

Both the Oklahoma and Texas board of regents unanimously voted to formally accept invitations to join the SEC on a Friday at the end of the month of July.

Oklahoma and Texas’ leadership have both stated publicly that the universities intend to remain in the Big 12 Conference through June 30, 2025, when the current Big 12 media rights deal expires. Still, many feel the exit for both will come long before that.

One of the repercussions for Oklahoma is what will happen with its annual Bedlam rivalry game against Oklahoma State. In the Oklahoma board of regents meeting where the Sooners formally accepted their invitation to join the SEC, OU president Joe Harroz addressed his and the university’s hope that Bedlam would continue.

“I also want to say this and I’ve communicated this to Oklahoma State and that is we want the Bedlam rivalry to continue well past the expiration of this media rights agreement. Make no mistake. We want the Bedlam rivalry to continue. And make no mistake. Even with this change, we want to play Oklahoma State in every sport, in every year,” Harroz said.

Harroz indicated that Oklahoma would have preferred for Oklahoma State to join the SEC with the Sooners, but that the landscape didn’t allow for that to be a possibility.

“The next question is why not Oklahoma State? Why did you do this and not bring in Oklahoma State University? This is a question we’ve thought about a lot dating back to 2012. That was part of our thought process and our conversation. We’ve analyzed this landscape deeply. Lots of conversations about how we do this. We looked at solutions for us to move together, but that simply is not what the market we’re pursuing allows. That was true then and it’s even more true today in this changed landscape,” Harroz said.

Oklahoma State president Dr. Kayse Shrum responded to the Oklahoma board of regents’ vote several days later on Twitter. On Aug. 1, Shrum tweeted the following statement.

“Many have asked about the future of Bedlam. We enjoy the intensity and tradition whenever we play OU in any sport. Right now, there are too many unknowns to determine what the future holds. Our athletic program is strong across the board and I have great respect for the dedication and hard work of our student-athletes in the classroom and their sports. Be assured we will move ahead with purpose, always honoring the principles we live by in the Cowboy Code and doing what is right — even when it’s hard. Go Pokes!” Shrum said.

Now, with the 2021 Bedlam game upon us, Oklahoma State head football coach Mike Gundy was asked if he thought the series against Oklahoma would continue.

“I don’t think it will. I just don’t think there’s a business side of it that…I don’t make that decision. I guess Dr. Shrum and Chad Weiberg, they could do whatever they wanted or the board. I don’t know who’s involved in this. I don’t think it’s a realistic thing that it’s going to happen based on the business side of power-five conference football in the Big 12 or the SEC. That’s just my opinion on it. I mean, I could be wrong and I’m not getting that from anybody. I’m just answering the question you asked me,” Gundy said.

Gundy felt the Cowboys’ existing non-conference commitments and an expanded Big 12 with BYU, Cincinnati, Houston and UCF would mean continuing the Bedlam series is unlikely.

“So, that’s 10 power-five conference [games], so if you’re going to go back into this game, you would be willing to play 11 out of a 12-game season, which would be extremely difficult,” Gundy said.

“And, from a business standpoint, we all know this. The more success and games you win in football is a huge revenue avenue for your athletic department and your university, because the more you win in football, enrollment goes up. That’s the fact. Marketing money goes up. There’s a huge amount of money involved in that. So, you would say, if we were running a company and you’re in a business standpoint, somebody would have to make a decision. Do you want to risk some of that and how many other teams across the country that are competing to get into the final four are willing to play 11 conference games and only have one non-conference based on the amount of money that could be sitting there at the end? Whether you like it or not, I’m guessing that’s what’s going to take place.”

Gundy noted he’s not been involved in discussions with Shrum and Weiberg where either has said that Bedlam won’t continue. However it ultimately plays out, count Gundy in the camp that isn’t in love with the change.

“Well, Berry [Tramel] can tell you that I’m a traditionalist and I didn’t like any of it. I didn’t like when the Big 12 broke up whenever that was and Missouri and Nebraska headed out. And then, I didn’t like any of it. I liked it the way it was. I liked it. I thought the divisions were good. I just liked it that way, so, I mean, I’m not fired up about any of it, but, obviously, it doesn’t make a difference what I think,” Gundy said.

Oklahoma and Oklahoma State will renew Bedlam for perhaps the final time in Stillwater at least for the near future on Saturday night at 6:30 p.m. on ABC.

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