Panthers Wire mailbag: What fans want to know ahead of Week 4

Should Andy Dalton be the Panthers’ starting QB for the long haul? We answer that and more in this week’s mailbag.

In what was a resurgent outing for their 2024 season, the Carolina Panthers pulled off a stunning upset of the Las Vegas Raiders this past Sunday. The 36-22 triumph was headlined by veteran Andy Dalton, who tossed for 319 yards and three touchdowns in his very first start of the campaign.

Just one week ago, fans were already drowned in the team’s seemingly certain demise. But now, at least there’s a bit of excitement in the air.

So as we move ahead into the Week 4 matchup against the Cincinnati Bengals with some optimism, let’s open up this week’s mailbag and answer your inquiries . . .

Adam Thielen’s injury

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How serious is Adam Thielen’s injury and what is his return status? – Joy O.

Who takes Adam Thielen’s targets? – Johnny

Thielen went down a hero before the half on Sunday, as he injured his hamstring while reeling in a spectacular 31-yard touchdown pass from Dalton. He did not return to the game and would later be placed on injured reserve, knocking him out for at least the next four weeks.

Head coach Dave Canales said Thielen’s injury does not require surgery, a sigh of relief for an offense that uses him as a security blanket. But the reliable veteran will now miss the tilts against Cincinnati, the Chicago Bears, Atlanta Falcons and Washington Commanders.

Although they’ll have to manage without Thielen for this intriguing stretch, the coaching staff seems confident in the rest of the wideout room. Outside of their top target in Diontae Johnson, expect Jonathan Mingo and Xavier Legette to see more playing time. It’s unclear who will take Thielen’s targets in the slot, but Mingo seems like a plausible candidate with Legette expected to man plenty of snaps at the Z receiver spot.

The team’s depth at the position will feature David Moore and undrafted free agent Jalen Coker, a draft community darling in the offseason. There is a chance all five receivers will see the field this Sunday.

Andy Dalton for the long haul?

Sep 22, 2024; Paradise, Nevada, USA; Carolina Panthers quarterback Andy Dalton (14) celebrates after the game against the Las Vegas Raiders at Allegiant Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Kirby Lee-Imagn Images

We get the “dub,” now the question is how long do we ride with Andy Dalton? Everyone saw the whole team’s attitude change. You could feel the win coming. – Allan J.

The Panthers were in the spotlight for all of the wrong reasons after their decision to bench second-year quarterback Bryce Young. The noise has lessened a good amount since Sunday after the win and a lot of the credit will go to Dalton, who was amazing in his first start since last season.

There was an attitude shift. The team looked motivated. Mistakes were masked or lessened. This group has a different tone heading into this upcoming weekend.

Dalton is the guy going forward. How long that will be may depend on his play and whether the team still believes in Young to the point of starting him again down the line. I’m still a little bit skeptical of Dalton maintaining consistent, clean play over the course of the season.

However, it seems Canales has a knack for getting once-forgotten veteran signal-callers back into playing quality football. My confidence in the team moving forward has certainly increased due to the system in place, the improved offensive line and a defense that is seemingly finding itself after losing Pro Bowler Derrick Brown for the year.

Should Dalton continue to have sound performances, especially this weekend against a quality Bengals defense, hope will arise in the Carolinas once again that its professional football team may not be in the gutter.

Panthers’ starting QB in 2025

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Who is most likely to be Panthers starting QB in 2025? – Brian D.

This is a tough question to answer with the season just a few weeks old. After Young’s benching, anything is possible. 

Dalton could re-sign with the organization for another year as a bridge player while the team continues to build and use assets around the position. Young could stick around and compete for the QB1 spot in the summer. Drafting a quarterback high or at any point in the 2025 NFL Draft is on the table as well.

Looking at the 2025 free agency list, there are not many viable options out there, and the quarterback class for the upcoming draft seems bleak. But keep an eye on Southern California’s Miller Moss and Miami’s Cameron Ward as the season flows along. If Ward continues to play with better decision-making and finds himself in New York as a Heisman Trophy finalist, he will be on many Panthers fans’ radars.

It’s unlikely Carolina will trade for a quarterback in the draft or the offseason. General manager Dan Morgan isn’t one to give up draft picks in a free-for-all like his predecessor did.

My choice, if he plays the entire season, would be Dalton with Young competing for the starting job.

David Tepper in the background

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Do we think this win shows Tepper really didn’t interfere with the Bryce decision and let football folks make the decisions? –  @jenw_8

While other national pundits have pointed at Tepper for influencing Canales in his decision to bench Young, I don’t get the sense this was an owner move and I haven’t since the announcement was made.

I have made my displeasure toward the team owner known in this very mailbag. This, however, was a Canales decision through and through. He needed to find a way to get his offense in rhythm again and had to keep his team on the same page. Keeping Young as the starter would’ve likely strained the locker room, and the last thing Canales needs is a roster that’s losing confidence in their first-time NFL head coach.

This was a case of Tepper taking a step back and letting the football personnel make the decisions. I believe Tepper is trying his hardest to stay in the background.

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Where do the Panthers stand in NFL power rankings heading into Week 4?

The Panthers are no longer in the deepest depths of the power rankings.

Remember all of those jokes about the Carolina Panthers having nowhere to go but up? Yeah, we can throw those away now.

The ‘0’ had to go on Sunday, as the Panthers captured their first win of the 2024 campaign in a stunning 36-22 upset of the host Las Vegas Raiders. Sparked by the first start of the season from veteran quarterback Andy Dalton, Carolina finally broke out on offense and received some complementary football on defense.

So now that they actually look like a real NFL team, here’s where the Panthers stand across the power rankings heading into Week 4 . . .

USA TODAY

Author: Nate Davis

Rank: 23 (+9)

Take: “Veteran QB Andy Dalton came off the pine to pass for 319 yards and three TDs – totals benched Bryce Young has never surpassed in the NFL – in Sunday’s upset of Las Vegas.”

NFL.com

Author: Eric Edholm

Rank: 31 (+1)

Take: “Dave Canales absolutely deserved to lead a raucous postgame celebration of Sunday’s win, which was his first as a head coach and only the second for the Panthers since last Halloween. Canales’ controversial decision to bench Bryce Young after two games and turn to Andy Dalton was validated by Dalton’s delivery of a Red Rifle classic. The veteran threw for three touchdowns and looked totally in command, as if he’d been running this offense as the starter since OTAs. If you’re a glass-half-empty type, well, no, this one didn’t make Young look great in comparison, as the Panthers had much better rhythm than they did at any time he was running the offense. The energy and body language also felt far different Sunday. But questions about the first overall pick in the 2023 NFL Draft can wait; for now, we’re looking forward, and Carolina is 1-0 in the AD era. For the first time in forever, the Panthers have elevated from the Power Rankings basement. The view surely isn’t too shabby from here after they were below ground for the better part of a year.”

ESPN

Author: David Newton

Rank: 31 (+1)

Take (on team’s biggest issue on offense): “Quarterback Andy Dalton proved coach Dave Canales was right in benching Bryce Young, and that the Panthers were close if they had a steady presence under center. With Dalton on Sunday, the Panthers looked like an offensive juggernaut instead of the lifeless unit they were with Young. Dalton had three touchdown passes in the first half against the Raiders. Young has only two TD passes in his past nine starts. The Panthers had a 300-yard passing game, 100-yard rushing game and 100-yard receiving game for the first time since Week 8 of 2022.”

CBS Sports

Author: Pete Prisco

Rank: 29 (+3)

Take: “Andy Dalton made this a different team. He was sharp and accurate and the confidence bled over to the rest of the team. Benching Bryce Young looks to be the right decision.”

Pro Football Talk

Author: Mike Florio

Rank: 29 (+3)

Take: “Can they string two wins together?”

Yahoo Sports

Author: Frank Schwab

Rank: 30 (+2)

Take: “The Panthers should feel like their season started Sunday. They’re 1-0 with Andy Dalton at QB. We’ll see if that was just a one-game boost with a backup and they fall back to the bottom. But there’s good reason for them to feel like they can be competitive with a competent quarterback.”

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Panthers fan exacts revenge on Rex Ryan with hilarious video following Week 3 win

Looks like Rex Ryan may have put his foot in his mouth when it comes to Dave Canales and the Panthers.

Rex Ryan may have put his foot in his mouth.

The former NFL head coach and current ESPN analyst socked it to the Carolina Panthers on yesterday’s episode of Sunday NFL Countdown. Ryan played heel, taking aim at the team’s handling of recently-benched quarterback Bryce Young as well as their hiring of head coach Dave Canales—one he called “the worst dang hire ever.”

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Welp, that take kinda stinks now, doesn’t it?

Just a few hours after Ryan’s rant, Canales and the Panthers stomped out a stunning 36-22 upset of the Las Vegas Raiders—the team, by the way, that currently employs Rex’s brother Rob as a senior defensive assistant. Carolina stepped all over that defense for 437 yards and seven scores over 11 drives, as veteran quarterback Andy Dalton led the way with 319 passing yards and three touchdowns.

Canales and the Panthers also went toe-to-toe with some of Ryan’s other concerns.

Not only did they run the ball, but they ran it rather well—feeding Chuba Hubbard 21 carries en route to a 114-yard rushing performance. Carolina’s defense stood tall as well, collecting a season-high three sacks and an interception while holding the Raiders to just 55 yards on the ground.

So, perhaps this hilarious edit from @_necktats over on Twitter/X was quite fitting . . .

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Unfortunately, that video and the Panthers’ performance didn’t do enough to move Ryan—who dug his feet in during Monday’s episode of Get Up:

Well, Ryan won’t be Carolina’s sole retractor, but at least they were able to find their footing.

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Panthers HC Dave Canales commits to Andy Dalton: ‘He’s our quarterback’

Panthers HC Dave Canales was asked if he’ll continue to roll with QB Andy Dalton after Sunday’s 36-22 win.

Things didn’t go too well for the last guy who Carolina Panthers head coach Dave Canales referred to as “our quarterback.” But we have a feeling that his latest use of that title will turn out to be a bit more firm.

Canales spoke with reporters on Monday afternoon, less than 24 hours after picking up the first victory of his head-coaching career. That triumph was led by veteran quarterback Andy Dalton, whom Canales bumped up to the starting role at the beginning of last week.

So, Canales was asked if he’ll continue to roll with Dalton.

“Andy’s our quarterback,” he replied. “He gives us our best chance to win. That’s the approach as we get ready for the Bengals.”

Dalton absolutely shined in the 36-22 win over the Las Vegas Raiders on Sunday, completing 26 of his 37 throws for 319 yards and three touchdowns. The 14th-year passer helped push the Panthers to 437 yards of total offense, which marked their first 400-yard output since 2022.

Canales was then asked about now-backup quarterback Bryce Young, who was demoted in favor of Dalton after a disappointing two-game start.

“He was consistent in his leadership,” he said of Young’s work on the sideline in Week 3. “The way that he connects with the guys, the way that he continued to connect with people, to add that value of the experiences—because now you talk about a guy who’s got 18 games of experience under his belt to be able to see the game and brings those things. And he certainly did that.”

Kudos to Young, but it sure sounds like we’re now living through the full Andy Dalton experience.

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Andy Dalton’s success proves how badly the Panthers failed Bryce Young

It might really be over for Bryce Young.

This is For The Win’s daily newsletter, The Morning Win. Did a friend recommend or forward this to you? If so, subscribe here. Have feedback? Leave your questions, comments and concerns through this brief reader survey! Now, here’s Mike Sykes.

Good morning, Winners! Happy Monday. I hope you had a fantastic weekend. Thank you for rocking with us this morning. We appreciate your time.

I very, very rarely agree with Tom Brady. But on Sunday after seeing how well Andy Dalton played after taking Bryce Young’s place as the starting quarterback for the Panthers, I found myself reflecting on his words.

Brady called it a “tragedy” that young quarterbacks are being forced by their teams to play early. He said the game is dumbed down, which I don’t necessarily agree with, enabling it to happen. But a lot of young QBs are missing the valuable developmental practice reps that used to be so common in the NFL.

When you hear that, how can you not think of Bryce Young? Especially after watching Dalton thrive in the Panther’s offense on Sunday.

On Sunday, he threw for 319 yards and three touchdowns with a 70.3 percent completion percentage in his first start this season. Young has thrown for 339 yards in his last three starts combined. The difference was stark. This was competent NFL quarterback play — something the Panthers haven’t seen in years. And, yet, a simple lineup change made it all possible.

Many saw this as proof that Bryce Young doesn’t have the juice. But, to me, this says much more about the Panthers than it does about Young.

READ MORE: Five trade destinations for Bryce Young

The former Alabama quarterback certainly came into the NFL with flaws that would turn most evaluators away. There’s the obvious one: He’s too small, at 5-foot-10. The arm talent wasn’t the greatest, either. But he was accurate with the ball, great at navigating the pocket and had dynamite instincts as a quarterback.

Those instincts? They’re gone. His accuracy is diminished by his hesitancy. He doesn’t seem to trust himself anymore. That’s what being thrown into a fraught situation will do to you.

Good leadership ensures that the folks you’re leading are placed in the best positions to succeed. Carolina’s leadership never did that with Bryce Young. He’s had three head coaches in 18 months. That’s no proper way to operate, but that’s been the only way under David Tepper.

The Panther’s owner isn’t afraid to make rash decisions to get the immediate results he wants. That’s how the Panthers ended up with Young in the first place. It’s also probably why he’s benched now.

In a perfect world, Young probably sits for a season or two while all this chaos unfolds within the organization and one day emerges when he’s ready. Instead, he was thrown out into the ocean with a wooden plank from day one. Carolina has had no stability, yet he was still expected to make a way.

Now, Young goes into the cautionary tale basket. He’ll fester with names like Ryan Leaf, Tim Couch and Jamarcus Russell. Maybe there’s an Alex Smith twist in there for him somewhere — Alex Smith himself sure does hope so!

I’m not sure I agree. I hope I’m wrong, but Young seems too far gone at this point. That’s quite a shame because you can’t help but feel things didn’t have to work out this way.


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The Eagles have a Jalen Hurts problem

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It wasn’t that long ago that Jalen Hurts marched the Philadelphia Eagles down the field in the Super Bowl against the Chiefs and tied the game up against the best team in the NFL with arguably the best quarterback we’ve ever seen.

It’s been slowly, but surely, downhill ever since. The Eagles beat the Saints 15-12 on Sunday, but Hurts’ ugly turnover problems popped up again.

Christian D’Andrea wrote more on his struggles here in his week 3 recap:

“Since Week 13 of the 2023 season — the genesis of the spiral that crushed the team’s Super Bowl hopes — Hurts has been good for roughly 2.86 EPA per game. That’s in the positives, which is good. It’s also 19th best among all quarterbacks, which is firmly mediocre.

Philadelphia can win with mediocrity, but it’s paying for greatness. Hurts signed a five-year, $255 million contract after that 2022 breakthrough that was richly deserved. After inking a significant investment, the returns have slowly dwindled and a player who threw six interceptions across an All-Pro third season in the league has suddenly become one of the game’s most turnover-prone quarterbacks.”

Nick Sirianni deserves a ton of the heat he’s getting for his poor decision-making in these last few games. But Hurts also keeps points off the board by simply giving the ball too much to the other team.

It’s hard to trust this team to do anything moving forward if that isn’t cleaned up.


A’ja Wilson’s run just keeps getting better

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I have no idea how this season will end for A’ja Wilson and the Las Vegas Aces. But, regardless of how it does, we should acknowledge that the run she’s been on for the last three seasons is on par with some of the greatest we’ve seen in basketball.

Wilson unanimously won her third MVP on Sunday ahead of the Aces Game 1 win over the Storm. That means in the last four years, Wilson has won:

— Three MVP awards

— Two Defensive Player of the Year awards (and maybe a third this season, so we may need to revisit this).

— Two WNBA Finals championships

— The 2023 WNBA Finals MVP award

Only the greatest of the greats have resumes like this. Wilson firmly placed herself in that echelon and still has plenty of room to climb.

She could be the best we’ve ever seen when it’s all said and done. What a journey we’re witnessing.


Quick hits: Is Matt Eberflus’ time already up? … Let’s all be normal about Caitlin Clark’s eye … and more

— Robert Zeglinski calls Matt Eberflus’ future into question in his latest NFL Awards column. It might be best for Caleb Williams’ future.

— Caitlin Clark isn’t blaming her black eye on her poor performance and neither should you. Meg Hall has more.

— Raheem Morris’ response to this missed pass interference call on the Chiefs is perfect. Charles Curtis has more.

— Here’s Christian with the worst quarterback performances of Week 3.

— Big hat sad Cowboys fan makes everybody else happy. Here’s Mary Clarke with more.

— Speaking of Caitlin Clark, here’s her first playoff bucket. Prince Grimes has it covered.

That’s a wrap, folks. Thanks so much for reading today. We appreciate the time! Peace.

-Sykes ✌️

Panthers QB Andy Dalton talks about his triumphant Week 3 performance

Panthers QB Andy Dalton couldn’t have scripted a better result for Sunday’s win over the Raiders.

Carolina Panthers quarterback Andy Dalton penned a perfect beginning to the latest chapter of his NFL career.

That story was set in Allegiant Stadium on Sunday, as the 14th-year veteran led the previously-winless Panthers to a stunning upset victory over the host Las Vegas Raiders. Week 3 marked the first start of the season for Dalton, who officially replaced struggling second-year passer Bryce Young on Monday.

The 36-year-old talked about the 36-22 win with reporters.

“It felt great,” he said with a smile. “For me to get the opportunity to be out there and for it to go the way it did, couldn’t have drawn it up any better. I thought our guys came out with the right attitude, the right mentality from the start, and we never slowed down. And that was the fun part about it. We didn’t just put one drive together, we were able to do it the whole game.”

The “Red Rifle” fired right away, carrying Carolina to a nine-play, 70-yard touchdown drive to open the contest. That possession, which wound up in the end zone off a 6-yard catch from running back Chuba Hubbard, marked the Panthers’ first opening-drive touchdown in 21 games.

Dalton finished the game having completed 16 of his 37 throws for 319 yards and three touchdowns. He became the first quarterback in the NFL this season to pass for both 300 yards and three scores.

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Panthers HC Dave Canales is asked how Bryce Young handled his 1st game after benching

Panthers HC Dave Canales was asked how Bryce Young handled his first game as the team’s backup QB.

Ironically enough, the 5-foot-10, 204-pound Bryce Young was the elephant in the room at Allegiant Stadium this afternoon.

The Carolina Panthers, in their very first game after benching the struggling second-year quarterback, pulled off a shocking 36-22 win over the Las Vegas Raiders. Sunday’s outing, although a triumphant one, must’ve been a particularly weird scene for the 23-year-old Young—who has been a star at every level of his football career.

Head coach Dave Canales was asked how Young handled his first game as the team’s backup following the victory.

“It was the same,” Canales said of Young’s preparation. “He had a great process of just being ready. He’s always gotta be ready to play. And I don’t expect anything different there. So just taking that same approach and being ready, locked in and focused. So that was excellent.”

Speaking of excellent, Young’s replacement became the first NFL quarterback this season to throw for at least 300 yards and three touchdowns in a game. And that was 14th-year veteran Andy Dalton—who completed 26 of his 37 passes for 319 yards and a trio of first-half scores.

Dalton’s performance helped the Panthers to 437 yards of total offense and five successful third-down conversions, more than double of what Young and the unit were able to record in the first two weeks combined.

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Andy Dalton’s sensational first game as Panthers starting QB had NFL fans roasting Bryce Young

Maybe Bryce Young really was the problem …

When the Panthers decided to bench 2023 No. 1 overall pick Bryce Young, it signaled that the team was essentially giving up on the player they traded up to draft (at a high cost) — along with giving up on the season. Well, Andy Dalton had other ideas.

Dalton took over on Sunday as Panthers starting quarterback against the Raiders. And just like that, Dalton had the Panthers absolutely cooking on offense. He eclipsed 300 yards, threw three touchdown passes and had the Panthers on the verge of a blowout win.

And sure, nobody expects the Panthers to suddenly turn into a playoff contender. But the drastic flip in performance showed just how bad Young truly had been in his second NFL season.

Like, Young was never completing this pass:

It was just one game, but Dalton’s performance was more than enough to have fans piling on Young. Dalton was out there showing him how it was supposed to be done.

This was how Twitter/X reacted

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Panthers score TD on Andy Dalton’s very 1st drive of 2024 season

The Red Rifle fired the opening shot for the Panthers on Sunday.

Is . . . is that what an actual offense looks like?

Whether or not it’s a temporary one, the Carolina Panthers’ detour from struggling second-year quarterback Bryce Young began with a bang. And it was the 14th-year veteran and new starter Andy Dalton who fired the shot—leading the offense on an eight-play, 70-yard scoring drive to open their Week 3 matchup against the Las Vegas Raiders.

Dalton completed five of his six attempts on the possession for 56 yards and a score. The 36-year-old connected with four different pass catchers—wide receivers Adam Thielen and Diontae Johnson, tight end Tommy Tremble and running back Chuba Hubbard.

The connection with Hubbard, a 6-yard reception, capped off the touch for Carolina’s first passing touchdown of the 2024 campaign.

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Hubbard, in addition, rushed for 18 yards on three carries.

His score also accounted for the first opening-drive touchdown for the Panthers in 21 games, which would’ve continued to stand as the longest active streak in the NFL.

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