Darvin Ham: Man, it was an awesome …

Darvin Ham: Man, it was an awesome thing. Being able to coach with Mike Budenholzer for the last nine years, since his first day as a head coach himself. He would always say, the timing, you can’t control the time and I’m a big spiritual guy. I believe in God wholeheartedly. A lot of times when you think you’re ready for something, God is like, hold on, it might not even be your preparation. That’s the concern. It’s, sometimes you can go into a messy environment as a good coach. And that doesn’t reflect well, if you get all of the blame on you. So you have to be careful when you’re doing your due diligence because it’s really a two-way street.