What was your sense of, you know, maybe …

What was your sense of, you know, maybe time and opportunity squandered in the Minnesota years? Shams Charania: Oh, there’s no question. He had deep regret. I mean, he said it in the interview, the one thing that he would change would be asking out leaving Minnesota years before. He said that in the past, but he reiterated it. He told me, ‘you know,’ when we were when we were talking, ‘I probably would be sitting here with one or two more rings.’ I think he still looks back at 2009 and 2010.