Q&A: Zach Johnson on being ‘a gnat,’ the U.S. alpha and how Tiger Woods will be the 13th man for Team USA

“I’m kind of like a gnat, like I just hang around, you know.”

By just about any measurement, Zach Johnson has exceeded expectations for his playing career.

The former Drake University golfer wasn’t even the No. 1 player on his team but, as he put it, he just kept getting better every year. So much so that he would go on to claim 12 PGA Tour titles, including two major championships, the 2007 Masters and 2015 British Open played at the Old Course at St. Andrews, Scotland. In doing so, he became only the sixth golfer to win majors at St. Andrews and Augusta National joining an exclusive group of players which includes Jack Nicklaus and Tiger Woods.

In February 2022, Johnson was named Team USA captain for the Ryder Cup, which begins Sept. 29 in Rome at Marco Simone Golf & Country Club,

Johnson has represented the U.S. side in the Ryder Cup five times as a player, being part of the winning team in 2016, and compiling an 8-7-2 record. Johnson has also served as a vice captain in the last two editions of the biennial contest in 2018 and 2021.

Attempting to win on European soil, something the American side hasn’t done in 30 years, sounds like an enormous task but Johnson just might be the right person for the job. Last week, while competing at the Fortinet Championship in Napa, California, Johnson sat down exclusively with Golfweek for the following Q&A.

Keegan Bradley tells the heartbreaking story of how he found out he didn’t make the Ryder Cup team

“For the first time, I let my brain think I did it. Why would they be rushing a camera crew to my house?”

For most players in the United States and Europe, representing your country at the Ryder Cup is the ultimate goal. A week where you play for more than yourself. So, you can imagine that finding out you didn’t make the cut is devastating.

Just ask Keegan Bradley.

Bradley was arguably the biggest snub for Team USA after putting together a stellar 2022-23 PGA Tour season. Across 18 made cuts in 23 starts, the 37-year-old finished inside the top 25 10 times, inside the top 10 six times and won the Zozo Championship and the Travelers Championship as a local hero. He concluded the year tying for ninth at the Tour Championship in Atlanta, and the countdown was on to see if he was going to be one of Zach Johnson’s captain’s picks.

During an interview with Barstool Sports’ ‘Foreplay’ podcast, Bradley told the story of the morning he got the call from Johnson.

“I got a text from Zach, ‘Hey, guys, I’m going to be calling everybody tomorrow morning.’ I’m like, ‘Oh, shit, I got another night now of sweating this out.’ I wake up, I’m very tired, and I get a call from Netflix and they say, ‘Keegan, we got a camera crew five minutes from your house.’ Why would they be sending a camera crew if I’m not going to get picked?”

Bradley continued.

“For the first time, I let my brain think I did it. Why would they be rushing a camera crew to my house? And as soon as I picked up the phone, it was like a ‘Hey, Keegan … ‘ And I look over at Jill a second into the call, and I go like, no.”

“It was devastating.”

In two Ryder Cup appearances — 2012 and 2014 — Bradley amassed a 4-3 record, going 0-2 in Sunday Singles.

Bradley posted this message to Twitter on Aug. 30.

He later posted: “All of the support has been amazing, but it’s time now to get behind this US team. I’m gonna be watching and pulling as hard as I can for them! GO USA”

A class act.

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Woodard: Forget the points lists. Let the captains pick their entire Ryder Cup teams

If it’s truly their team, a captain and his staff should pick who they want.

Back in April of 2020 when the COVID-19 pandemic had golf fans questioning when they’d be able to watch their favorite sport again, Padraig Harrington had an interesting idea to ensure the Ryder Cup, scheduled for later in the year, would still be played.

The European captain at the time, Harrington made the plea for the biennial bash to be the first event to return and for teams to be comprised solely of 12 captain’s picks: “Just 12 guys from Europe and 12 from America, with no prize money at stake and competing just for glory? Wouldn’t that be a nice way for sport to start back?”

The PGA Tour then returned to action in June, and a month later the Ryder Cup was postponed until 2021. The event, which the U.S. won 19-9 at Whistling Straits in Wisconsin, did not feature teams of just captain’s picks. The Americans had six qualifiers via a performance-based points list, and the other six were selected by the captain. Harrington’s squad included nine players from a points list and just three of his own picks.

Pandemic or not, doesn’t Harrington’s original idea have some merit? Why aren’t the Ryder Cup teams selected by the captain and his staff?

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Team captains Luke Donald of England and Zach Johnson of the United States pose for a photograph with the Ryder Cup trophy during the Ryder Cup 2023 Year to Go Media Event in Rome, Italy. (Photo: Andrew Redington/Getty Images)

“The feedback from last time’s Ryder Cup, it was a very positive influence to have the captain be allowed to have six captain’s picks for a variety of reasons and some that I didn’t even think about,” said PGA of America president John Lindert during this year’s PGA Merchandise Show. “When there were only two, the two who got picked somewhat didn’t feel inclusive because they were the two, right?

“With six, it’s a 50-50 field so it becomes a more inclusive team and it allows the captain to actually build a team.”

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Lindert was referencing the years in which the U.S. captain had two picks, a change implemented in 1989 after decades of players being chosen based only on a points list. The U.S. was following the Europeans, who started things off with captain’s picks in 1979. In 2008, U.S. captain Paul Azinger changed his team to include four captain’s picks, and that remained the system – with a one-year break in 2014 when Tom Watson only wanted three– until 2021. The Europeans also have expanded their captain’s power over the years.

For this year’s matches at Marco Simone Golf and Country Club near Rome, Italy, both teams will have six automatic qualifiers and six captain’s picks. Six picks allow a staff to supplement a team. Twelve picks actually allow the staff to build one. And as far as inclusivity, imagine 12 players competing for their country, all picked by the same group to achieve the same goal. No 50-50 split there.

“The six picks give me flexibility to ensure we have the strongest line-up at Marco Simone in terms of in-form players, players with Ryder Cup experience, and potential pairings,” said Donald of Europe’s selection process.

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Team captains Luke Donald of England and Zach Johnson of the United States pose for a photograph with the Ryder Cup during the Ryder Cup 2023 Year to Go Media Event at Marco Simone Golf Club in Rome. (Photo: Andrew Redington/Getty Images)

What’s more flexible than picking half of your team to maximize in-form players, those with experience and to plan the best pairings? Selecting an entire team.

There’s always an argument to be made for a player or three who were left off a team, and more times than not the captain’s picks come from the top 15 or so of the points list used to determine automatic qualifiers. But if a player is truly good enough, captains shouldn’t need a ranking system. The players’ form and performance should speak for themselves.

That said, the merits of a point system are obvious, too. The biggest con to the idea is the fear the event will become even more of a popularity contest. The best players should earn the privilege to represent their country. That’s where a captain comes in. How do you ensure the most-worthy players are picked? By naming the proper captains who will select the best teams. Not just by naming a popular name for name’s sake.

If it’s truly their team, a captain and his staff should pick who they want. Naturally a selection or three will be made based on course fit, for a match pairing or even due to past experiences. Picture a live selection show where a captain unveils his team and then gets to explain his reasoning. Professional golf is rapidly changing to improve its entertainment value. Match pairings are broadcasted, so why not the team selection, too?

Being a Ryder Cup captain is still in many ways a ceremonial role. With a staff of vice-captains at hand, let’s give ’em even more to do and make this classic event all the more interesting.

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Ryder Cup captain Zach Johnson (jokingly) sets high bar for Max Homa, Justin Thomas at Fortinet Championship

“I think it’s inevitable that whatever Max and J.T. do this week will be overstated to the good or to the bad.”

NAPA, Calif. – Zach Johnson is wearing two hats this week – one of which is trying to prepare to play in the Fortinet Championship, which begins on Thursday, and the other is prepping as captain of Team USA for the Ryder Cup in Rome, which begins on Sept. 29 and included two impromptu Zoom calls when he woke up Tuesday.

He said he’s taking both jobs seriously, including laying down the gauntlet to his two Ryder Cup players in the field this week, Max Homa and Justin Thomas.

“Max and J.T., I don’t really want to speak on behalf of them, but if they don’t play well, they may not play. That’s the bottom line,” said Johnson speaking at a pre-tournament press conference, before adding, “Kidding.”

“There was a little hesitation there, did you see that?” said Stewart Cink, one of Johnson’s vice captains for the Ryder Cup and a past champion at the Fortinet Championship.

Johnson continued, and said he had some concerns whether he should play this week.

“At the same time, given the people I have around me, specifically someone like Stewart and our other peers, our leadership captains if you will, we’ve done a lot of good work to date,” Johnson said.

He had little doubt that it would be beneficial for Homa and Thomas, in particular, to get some reps under tournament conditions.

“I don’t think it’s ever bad to go compete. That’s what we’re designed to do, that’s where we’re wired,” he said. “Ideally they get some momentum. Momentum in this game is pretty lethal and can be a really good thing.”

He added: “I’m not going to give their scorecard a whole lot of merit when it comes to what we’re trying to do two weeks from now.”

“I think it’s inevitable that whatever Max and J.T. do this week will be overstated to the good or to the bad,” Cink said. “I hope they both win. I don’t think that’s possible, but I hope they both win. That would be great for their confidence alone.

And we tie for third,” Johnson said.

Confidence is knowing your best golf is still to come.

“We hope that they have confidence coming out of this week and that would be a great thing,” Cink said.

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Lynch: Team USA is trying to mimic Europe’s Ryder Cup magic, but missing the point

There’s been plenty of rancor over the years in Europe’s team room.

Comforting myths have a tendency to become conventional wisdom in golf. Thus, Jack Nicklaus never missed a putt that mattered and Europe’s Ryder Cup success owes to its players having lovingly bonded during dinners and airport delays. As the 71st hole of the ’77 Open and a chat with any European team veteran will attest, neither is entirely true.

There’s been plenty of rancor over the years in Europe’s team room, involving people who weren’t only not friends but who spent the week at each other’s throats, sometimes literally. There was great camaraderie, sure, but the Ryder Cup was not a buddies’ trip for the blue and yellow. To wit: two of the most talismanic figures during Europe’s glory days — Seve Ballesteros and Nick Faldo — would at times have struggled to find more than a few teammates who’d have swung a handbag in their defense in a barroom brawl.

What unity there was within Europe’s squad was seeded in common purpose, not in cordial relationships. Many of the continent’s top stars felt routinely disrespected on the PGA Tour and found solidarity in a shared objective — kicking the enemy’s arse. Bonds between players grew organically around that goal; they weren’t a prepackaged requirement to make the roster to begin with. And that’s where the U.S. team is missing the point in trying to imitate what the peddlers of hackneyed pablum claim is the secret to Europe’s success.

None of which is to say that harmony is unwelcome. It’s clearly preferable to discord in a stressful team room, but it’s nonessential. Many teams in many sports have benefitted from the inclusion of troublesome personalities. The 44th Ryder Cup next month in Rome, however, will test the idea that a team can be successful by explicitly excluding such.

Seve Ballesteros, left, and captain Tony Jacklin celebrate as Europe marched toward its first Ryder Cup win on U.S. soil in 1987 at Muirfield Village in Dublin, Ohio.

The players who didn’t receive one of Zach Johnson’s captain’s picks this week have limited right to complain. They had an opportunity to earn their spot and didn’t, leaving their fate hostage to whatever intangibles the skipper values most. Each of the selections Johnson made is defensible, notwithstanding the various quibbles put forth. Some of the metrics cited in second-guessing are questionable anyway. Like current form. What is “current” when the matches are a month away? Or performances in past Ryder Cups. As any financial advisor will tell you, results from 24 months ago predict nothing one month hence. If they did, ZJ would have picked DJ, who went 5-and-0 at Whistling Straits in ’21.

But the fact that Captain Johnson’s choices can be justified doesn’t mean the reasons underpinning his decisions are beyond scrutiny.

When the final U.S. team was announced, I received a text from a European veteran surprised by the non-selection of Keegan Bradley, whose two PGA Tour victories this season are more than any of the six men who were picked. “When you get a proven competitor with Ryder Cup pedigree in form, it should be enough,” he wrote. Bradley’s subsequent comment to Golf Channel’s Todd Lewis suggested he believes his omission is down to clubbiness: “I’ve always been an outsider in the sport but I have tried to get closer to the guys I thought would be on the team. I feel like moving forward I’m going to have to automatically qualify for the Ryder Cup.”

That perception was bolstered by Johnson’s comments during the announcement, in which popularity was repeatedly cited as a metric that mattered. Sam Burns “meshes well.” Rickie Fowler “makes every team room better.” Brooks Koepka’s “buddies wanted him on the team.” All of those things may be true and aren’t inherently problematic, but they illuminate the process by which the U.S. team is now chosen. Jordan likes JT. Scottie likes Sam. Everyone likes Rickie. Guys assured of being on the team are choosing their own “ride or dies” and the captain’s job is to provide air cover.

The PGA of America’s Ryder Cup task force was conceived amid unseemly acrimony — Phil Mickelson castigating Tom Watson for the loss at Gleneagles in ’14. Ever since, the mission has seemed blurred between having the U.S. team be competitive and having it be convivial. America’s lineup could romp to victory in Rome, in which case any questions about how it came together will be moot. But if it loses, the firing squad will be loading muskets before the European guys sober up from the celebrations. In that scenario, at least Johnson’s players will have plenty of friends at hand to lean on for support.

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‘You just don’t leave JT at home’: Ryder Cup captain Zach Johnson on why he picked Justin Thomas

Thomas is 6-2-1 in two previous Ryder Cup appearances for Team USA.

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One of the biggest questions facing United States Ryder Cup captain Zach Johnson was whether or not to bring an out-of-form Justin Thomas to Italy for next month’s event.

Johnson announced his six captain’s picks to complete his 12-player team bound for Marco Simone Golf and Country Club, Sept. 29-Oct. 1, and Thomas was one of them.

“His passion for the Ryder Cup is very evident,” said Johnson during a press conference after making his selection. “In my mind, he was born for this and you just don’t leave JT at home.”

The 30-year-old former world No. 1 will make his third appearance for the red, white and blue next month near Rome and will look to improve on an already stellar 6-2-1 record.

MORE: Check out Team USA’s Ryder Cup uniforms

“I’ve been very fortunate to play with some good friends of mine that I feel like I know well,” said Thomas, “that I’m not only comfortable around but I feel like I can do my best to try to bring the best out of them.”

“One of the most talented players on the PGA Tour in my opinion,” added Johnson. “(Thomas) has without question been the heart and soul of Team USA at Ryder Cups. Our emotional leader, I would say, and I don’t think he would argue with that. He just leads by example.”

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Meet the 12 players and captains representing Team USA at the 2023 Ryder Cup in Italy

Get to know the 12 players on Team USA for the 2023 Ryder Cup.

Ladies and gentlemen, meet Team USA.

After the conclusion of the 2023 BMW Championship the six automatic qualifiers for the U.S. team bound for Marco Simone Golf and Country Club and the 2023 Ryder Cup were confirmed. Following the Tour Championship, captain Zach Johnson announced his six captain’s picks that would join the team near Rome, Italy.

Of the 12 players on the roster, four will make their debut in the biennial event against the Europeans, who haven’t lost on home soil since 1993.

Get to know all 12 players and the captains who will represent the red, white and blue in the 44th playing of the Ryder Cup.

MORE: Check out Team USA’s Ryder Cup uniforms

Think the LIV Golf/PGA Tour rivalry is dead? The Brooks Koepka pick says otherwise

That difference of opinion shows that emotions and opinions remain divided and even polarized.

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In a normal Ryder Cup year, Brooks Koepka’s place on the U.S. team would be anything but controversial.

Koepka won the PGA Championship, conducted by the same PGA of America that runs the Ryder Cup on the U.S. side. And even though he missed out on one of the top six automatic berths in points, Koepka finished a strong seventh on the points list.

This, of course, is anything but a normal year for the Ryder Cup or for men’s professional golf. Koepka’s participation on the LIV tour means there are those who believe he shouldn’t be allowed a captain’s pick onto the U.S. team that will face Europe in Italy next month. There are others who are adamant that Koepka absolutely deserves a berth on the U.S. team.

That difference of opinion shows that after two years of rhetoric and finger-pointing and more than a year since the LIV tour debuted as a rival to the PGA Tour, emotions and opinions remain divided and even polarized.

It also shows that whatever olive branch extended between the PGA Tour and the Saudi Arabia Public Investment Fund, the money behind the LIV tour, hasn’t exactly soothed some very hard feelings among players and fans. The June announcement of a partnership framework between the PIF and the PGA Tour has yet to produce many hard and firm details about what the PGA Tour might look like in 2024. In fact, there is still talk the partnership will not actually come to fruition.

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Brooks Koepka tees off at the 1st during a Ryder Cup practice round at Le Golf National. (Photo: Ian Rutherford-USA TODAY Sports)

Polarized feelings

Somehow, caught in the middle of this are Koepka and U.S. Ryder Cup captain Zach Johnson. Koepka has played just four points-gathering events for the Ryder Cup this year, the four major championships. But a win at the PGA Championship and a tie for second at the Masters garnered Koepka enough points to be in the top six in points for the team. That is until last Sunday at the BMW Championship, when the right players finished just high enough on the leaderboard to push Koepka down to seventh and out of an automatic bid. Koepka, of course, didn’t play in the BMW event and isn’t in the Tour Championship this week.

Had Koepka stayed in the top six, he would have been on the team, no questions asked. Instead, he now requires a captain’s pick from Johnson, who no doubt has thought long and hard about the idea of an LIV player on the U.S. team.

A friend called this week, thinking the captain’s picks had been made, and said, “They didn’t put an LIV player on the Ryder Cup, did they?’” That’s one vote against any LIV player participating.

On the other hand, the PGA of America may have painted itself into a corner it can’t escape. By allowing Koepka and other LIV players who qualified to play in the PGA Championship, the PGA opened up the possibility of an LIV golfer on the Ryder Cup. If Koepka is good enough to play in and win the PGA Championship, how can he be barred from a Ryder Cup berth, the critics ask.

The precedent of LIV golfers being banned from events has been set by the PGA Tour, which technically has nothing to do with the Ryder Cup, and by the DP World Tour. That European tour is saying no LIV players will be on the European team in Italy.

Keeping Koepka off the U.S. team will certainly cause another war of words to break out from those who dislike the PGA Tour’s stance on LIV golfers and who will see such a move as hypocritical by a PGA of America that saw fit to let Koepka play in the PGA Championship. Letting Koepka play for the U.S. team will renew anger among fans (and perhaps a few PGA Tour players) who still see a move to the LIV tour as a betrayal by the former PGA Tour golfers.

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We will find out in just a few days which six golfers will join the six automatic qualifiers for the U.S. team. Frankly, it only makes sense for the PGA champion to be on the team, especially since he was allowed to play in that major tournament to begin with. And remember, Koepka is the only LIV player truly under consideration for a Ryder Cup berth.

If he is rightfully on the team, the odds are that will cause the same kind of debate we have seen in the game for two years.

Larry Bohannan is the golf writer for The Desert Sun. You can contact him at (760) 778-4633 or at larry.bohannan@desertsun.com. Follow him on Facebook or on Twitter at @larry_bohannan.

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Making the case for each potential U.S. Ryder Cup captain’s pick for Italy

Does Justin Thomas get the nod on past performances? Will Brooks Koepka or any other LIV players be selected?

Zach Johnson has some choices to make.

On Tuesday the U.S. Ryder Cup captain will make his six selections and complete the 12-player team bound for Marco Simone Golf and Country Club, Sept. 29-Oct. 1.

Locked in as automatic qualifiers are world No. 1 Scottie Scheffler, U.S. Open champion Wyndham Clark, Open champion Brian Harman, Patrick Cantlay, Max Homa and Xander Schauffele.

But who will join them? Does Justin Thomas get the nod based on past performances? Will Brooks Koepka or any other LIV players be selected? How about a 43-year-old debutant in Lucas Glover?

Let’s make the case for the potential captain’s picks for the 2023 Ryder Cup.

Lynch: Whether to pick Brooks Koepka is Zach Johnson’s first big test as captain. Will he ace it or flunk?

For all his bro belligerence on social media and the marketing of himself as a lone wolf, Koepka is popular in the team room.

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The reasons for America’s abysmal 30-year run in Ryder Cup road trips aren’t as simple as putts not dropping or superstar players, like hodophobes and nachos — not traveling well. Decisions made prior to even reaching the departure gate have often been seen in retrospect as harbingers of defeat. Like in 2010, when the U.S. team arrived in Wales with rain suits ill-suited to rain, forcing officials to purchase alternatives in the merchandise shop. Or in ’14, when the lineup was settled so far in advance that America’s hottest golfer, Billy Horschel, was left out in the cold.

Strategic gaffes and imperfect pairings by Ryder Cup captains can be chalked up to the heat of battle, but decisions made before wheels leave the tarmac at home are seldom as easily excused. Corey Pavin’s catastrophe in Cardiff notwithstanding, it’s tough to screw up the uniforms, and no one really cares who the assistant cart jockeys are, which means the most perilous advance call for a captain is deciding which players get the nod after failing to earn their place automatically. Just ask Jim Furyk. He was carved up in the Paris post-mortem five years ago when not a single point came from three of his four picks, one of whom — Phil Mickelson — was more likely to hit Luxembourg with his driver than the punishingly narrow fairways of Le Golf National.

On Tuesday, Zach Johnson will choose the second half of his team for Rome, a decision that once promised to be as troublesome as figuring out what three colors to use in the uniform palette. While LIV defections sundered the U.S. team that easily won the ’21 Ryder Cup, the squad fielded at the ’22 Presidents Cup was dominant and unified. But only four men from that team are currently on Johnson’s roster, and four are so woefully out of form that picking them ranges from risky to indefensible. Meanwhile, the European side that appeared destined for a decade in the doldrums after the waxing at Whistling Straits looks more daunting by the day.

Having six selections provides safety in numbers for captains. A couple of under-performers won’t stand out as glaring missteps and will be forgotten if others deliver. On the flip side, six decisions cast a harsh light on a captain’s judgment, increase the odds of choices that seem more about loyalty than legitimacy, and add pressure on half the team to justify the vote of confidence. Cap’n Johnson faces a fraught 48 hours that could determine his Ryder Cup legacy before a ball is struck.

Justin Thomas is playing poorly but brings a leadership vibe to the team room. Lucas Glover is a hot hand, and while he won’t scare a Rory McIlroy in singles, nor will he be intimidated. Keegan Bradley spends every waking hour thinking about Rome, and no one else on the team has won more than him this season. Tony Finau has a couple of wins too and a stout team record, but has cooled. Rickie Fowler rediscovered his form of late and would be a popular selection among his peers. Cameron Young came oh-so-close to an automatic spot, but near misses are the hallmark of his career so far. Did I mention that Jordan Spieth, Collin Morikawa and Sam Burns need picks, too? All worthy guys, but nine into six just don’t go.

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All of the aforementioned finished lower in the points race than Brooks Koepka. He was seventh, one spot shy of qualifying automatically. But that’s now meaningless; he may as well be 70th. Points determine the first six. The final six make it on metrics we don’t know — the intangibles most valued by Johnson, whether statistical (skill sets that are complementary for foursomes, strengths that balance shortcomings elsewhere), populist (personalities that fit, performances on prior teams), or personal (advocacy by influential voices, antipathy toward LIV). All or none of those might matter to Johnson, but it’s impossible to deny that the potential selection of Koepka is freighted with politics.

The sentiment — common in some quarters — that Koepka should not play for the U.S. because he joined LIV is legally problematic. Any move by the PGA of America or its agents, in this case Johnson, to punish a LIV player out of misplaced loyalty to the PGA Tour is fodder for an antitrust complaint. Even if Johnson has an aversion to LIV, he must assess Koepka by the same standards as other candidates. And if he decides against including him, he’d better be prepared to explain why in granular detail.

Koepka didn’t earn a place in Rome but deserves one. Not for what he did on LIV, but in spite of it. Exhibition golf only counts toward his bank balance, but when he did face the world’s best this year, he delivered: victory at the PGA Championship, runner-up at the Masters, top 20 at the U.S. Open. He has been his old, familiar self — competitive, ornery, focused, cutthroat. Even Europe’s stars would feel pressure facing him, which can’t be said of many who will line out for the U.S. For all his bro belligerence on social media and the assiduous marketing of himself as a lone wolf, Koepka is popular in the team room. He didn’t sign on to lawsuits or take shots at his former circuit. PGA Tour politics are immaterial to the Ryder Cup and he is by far LIV’s most competitively relevant member.

Johnson has options, but few that are Koepka’s equal. For Ryder Cup captains, there’s often a fine line between decisions being hailed as bold or derided as botched. Johnson faces criticism whatever call he makes on Koepka. Better to be slated for bringing a controversial soldier into battle than for leaving him in the barracks just because he’s a mercenary.

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