PFF’s quarterback rankings: Where does Justin Herbert stand?

Does Justin Herbert make PFF’s top-five quarterbacks?

One of the most controversial debates is where Justin Herbert ranks among the other quarterbacks in the NFL.

Many feel he deserves to be among the top five, while others feel he shouldn’t be that high because he doesn’t have the postseason accolades to show for it.

Pro Football Focus recently dropped their QB rankings ahead of the 2024 season and they have Herbert as their No. 5 player at the position.

2023 wasn’t Herbert’s best season from an efficiency standpoint — plus he missed the final four games due to injury — but he did what many of us have been asking for the last few years: push the ball more. He posted a 5.0% big-time throw rate, his highest since his rookie year, and recorded an average target depth of more than 8.0 yards downfield for the first time in his career.

Despite some criticisms that he can’t singlehandedly will his team to postseason success (which is silly), Herbert remains one of the most talented quarterbacks in the league. His 68.9 passing grade under pressure last season ranked third, behind Dak Prescott and Lamar Jackson.

Herbert finished behind Chiefs’ Patrick Mahomes, Ravens’ Lamar Jackson, Bengals’ Joe Burrow and Bills’ Josh Allen, which is respectable.

Herbert suffered a finger injury that cost him the final four games of last season. But he should return to form, even with a new scheme, which is expected to be predicated on running the ball.

Despite the new offensive approach, Herbert is one of the most prolific passers in the NFL, and I expect the coaching staff to still play to his strengths by using his arm to push the ball down the field.

As long as Herbert is under center, the Chargers will have the chance to make a run, which I expect this upcoming season, and for him to make the case for being a bonafide top-five signal-caller.

Where did Eagles’ All-Pro Jalen Hurts land in PFF’s initial 2023 QB rankings?

Philadelphia star signal-caller Jalen Hurts landed behind Lamar Jackson, Aaron Rodgers and four other AFC passers in a PFF ranking of all 32 NFL quarterbacks

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The NFL’s offseason is starting to wind down, and as teams begin to prepare for training camps intensely, the discussions about the league’s top quarterback have started to increase.

Aaron Rodgers (Jets), Derek Carr (Saints), and Jimmy Garoppolo (Raiders) all switched teams.

At the same time, Bryce Young (Panthers), C.J. Stroud (Texans), and Anthony Richardson (Colts) represent the new breed of signal-callers selected in the 2023 NFL draft.

PFF revealed their initial 2023 quarterback rankings, and Jalen Hurts landed at No. 7 behind six other AFC quarterbacks.

7. JALEN HURTS, PHILADELPHIA EAGLES
Hurts was phenomenal in 2022, but the hardest part of that kind of play in the NFL is sustaining it. Lamar Jackson one spot above him is a great example of that. Hurts has taken big steps forward every season of his career, and if he has another one in the tank, then he is ranked too low at No. 7. Hurts averaged 8.0 yards per attempt last season and added almost 800 rushing yards and 13 touchdowns on the ground.

Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, and Joe Burrow led the way, with Justin Herbert not far behind, while Kirk Cousins (8), Trevor Lawrence (9), and Dak Prescott (10) rounded out the top ten.

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LOOK: MSU’s Payton Thorne snubbed in PFF quarterback rankings

Yikes…this is a bad rankings list

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Where would you rank Michigan State’s Payton Thorne amongst the top quarterbacks in the country? It’s probably higher than the so-called experts at Pro Football Focus (PFF).

PFF released a rankings list on Thursday that broke down the top 130 starting quarterbacks in the country, and somehow Thorne wasn’t even listed in the top 50 nationally. Thorne came in at No. 53 on the list — which to me seems like a brutally low spot for the Spartans’ signal caller.

Ahead of Thorne from the Big Ten was Maryland’s Taulia Tagovailoa (No. 11), Ohio State’s C.J. Stroud (No. 17), Michigan’s Cade McNamara/JJ McCarthy (No. 34), Indiana’s Michael Penix Jr. (No. 35), Iowa’s Spencer Petras (No. 38), and Purdue’s Jack Plummer/Aidan O’Connell (No. 39).

You can click on the tweet below to see the complete list from PFF:

Thorne has thrown for 1,236 passing yards and 11 touchdowns this season, and has only one interception. Additionally, he’s ran for 77 yards and two touchdowns this year.

So I find it hard to believe there’s 52 other quarterbacks that rank higher than Thorne, and would even argue he’s above most of the signal-callers from the Big Ten on this list. These type of rankings don’t mean much at the end of the day, but you’d think they would at least be somewhat more accurate…

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Wait, WHAT? PFF ranks Auburn’s Bo Nix as 95th best quarterback in country

This seems a little low for a quarterback who led the Tigers to nine wins as a true freshman last season.

Winning the SEC Offensive Freshman of the Year in 2019 certainly didn’t impress the people over at Pro Football Focus it seems.

In their annual ranking of all 130 starting quarterbacks in college football, Bo Nix comes in at an extremely low 95th.

Their reasoning?

Nix may have won SEC Freshman of the Year, but he really didn’t play like it. When kept clean, Nix earned a 69.2 passing grade, which ranked 107th among 130 FBS quarterbacks. As said in the PFF College Magazine, he struggled to move the ball on schemed plays and has suspect downfield accuracy. Nix may have been a five-star recruit and the No. 1-ranked dual-threat quarterback coming out of high school, but we just haven’t seen enough from him to make us believe he will ever live up to that hype.

Okay then. Let’s state the ways in which they are wrong. First, yes, Nix had some accuracy issues but, as a true freshman, still put 2,542 passing yards and 16 touchdowns to just six interceptions (none at home) and rushed for seven scores himself, helping the Tigers defeat Pac-12 champion Oregon in his collegiate debut and Alabama to keep the Crimson Tide out of the playoffs.

One wonders if these guys watched the Tigers games when putting together this ranking because he is behind some very suspect quarterbacks on this list.

Let’s just hope Nix sees this and uses it as fuel for this upcoming season.