Pac-12 Network horror story: Miami resident explains how hard it was to find USC game on TV

Listen to @IanHest, a South Florida resident, describe how hard it was to find USC-Oregon State on Pac-12 Network. It shows how marginalized the conference is nationwide.

It’s hard enough to find Pac-12 Network games if you live in the Western United States and have DirecTV. Imagine the challenge of finding Pac-12 Network if you live on the opposite coast of the country … say Miami, for instance.

Trojans: Wired podcast producer Ian Hest lives in South Florida. He naturally wanted to watch the USC-Oregon State game just like every other college football fan. That was a very big game on Saturday night.

We won’t give away the whole story here. You can listen to Ian talk about his adventure on a new episode of the Trojans: Wired podcast. We can say, however, that in Miami — and, one can assume, other markets in the South or the East — Pac-12 Network is not available on the basic or just-above-basic cable tiers for various regional providers. Consumers who are focused on being able to watch SEC or ACC football would have to go out of their way to pay more to get Pac-12 Network. It’s no wonder that the idea of watching a game on Pac-12 Network is, for a lot of Americans outside the West, a complete waste of time. Why even try if a Pac-12 game is not on ESPN or Fox?

Listen to Ian tell his story. It’s both hilarious and sad:

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Oregon to face Arizona in another night game in the desert

The Pac-12 has announced another night game for the Ducks’ trip to Arizona on Oct. 8.

The Pac-12 Conference announced Monday morning that Oregon and Arizona are scheduled for a 6 p.m. kickoff in the desert Oct. 8. The contest will be televised on the Pac-12 Network. This will mark the second time the Ducks will appear on the network.

It’s been four years since Oregon has made a trip down to Tucson and that last venture into the desert wasn’t kind as the Wildcats upset Oregon 44-15.

But here in 2022, these start times have been favorable for the Ducks, except for the upcoming 8 p.m. kickoff with Stanford this week. But with a day game in Pullman in the middle of September and now this night game in Tucson to avoid the scorching heat, Oregon doesn’t have a lot to complain about.

The Ducks know it could be a lot worse.

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The sad part about USC-Oregon State on Pac-12 Network: bad games are on ESPN, Fox, FS1

While #USC vs the #Beavers is on Pac-12 Network Sept. 24, Missouri-Auburn is on ESPN. Maryland-Michigan is on Fox. Duke-Kansas is on FS1. Pathetic.

On Monday, USC fans and Pac-12 football fans were stunned to learn that the huge game between the Trojans and the Oregon State Beavers would be shown on Pac-12 Network.

USC-Oregon State is a massive game. The winner takes a big step toward the Pac-12 Championship Game. The stakes are extremely high.

Arizona-Colorado and Arizona State-Cal are Pac-12 Network games. Low-visibility games should be on the low-visibility network. When USC plays on Pac-12 Network, it should be against a bad team such as Cal, not against a good team.

ESPN and Fox want to save their USC games for later in the season, but they’re doing so at the expense of this very important contest. The ultimate problem is that Pac-12 Network is not on DirecTV and is not on a regular (basic) cable tier. It’s not nearly as accessible or visible as SEC Network or Big Ten Network.

What makes this development especially infuriating: Bad games are on ESPN and Fox and other high-visibility national television outlets. Look at all the other matchups on ESPN, or ABC, or Fox, or other prime TV outlets. They’re not as good as Trojans-Beavers. Let’s take a look:

Huge USC-Oregon State game on Sept. 24 is relegated to Pac-12 Network

This is exactly why #USC left for the Big Ten. There is absolutely no excuse for a huge #Pac12 game being dumped onto the lowest-visibility TV outlet.

On Monday, something happened which reminded all of us in the Pac-12 Conference footprint that George Kliavkoff had no chance to prevent USC from leaving for the Big Ten. He really didn’t.

There was so much damage, and so many contractual knots to untie, that Kliavkoff could not have been reasonably expected to unwind them in one year. Yet, one year is all Kliavkoff had before USC left for the Big Ten.

One year was simply not long enough for Kliavkoff to keep USC in the fold. He needed at least a two-year window, probably three … and he didn’t have that amount of time.

What did happen on Monday, you ask? Here you go: The USC-Oregon State football game on Saturday, Sept. 24 — a huge game in the 2022 Pac-12 title chase — has been relegated to Pac-12 Network.

It’s true: This huge game for both teams (the Beavers as well as the Trojans) has been kicked to the lowest-visibility television outlet. A top-tier game has received bottom-rung treatment. A lot of USC fans (with DirecTV) will not be able to watch this game.

Jon Wilner of The Wilner Hotline explained why this is the case:

USC-Cal should be on Pac-12 Network. That game won’t be remotely close. USC-Arizona might be legitimately interesting this year, given how much Arizona has improved, but if we’re choosing between that and USC-Oregon State, it’s clear that USC-Arizona is the Pac-12 Network game. USC-Arizona State is another Pac-12 Network candidate.

ESPN and Fox Sports both did a profound disservice to viewers by not picking up USC-Oregon State, but the biggest problem here is Pac-12 Network being a low-visibility outlet. If it had full distribution on a regular cable tier, we wouldn’t have this problem.

Even ESPNU would offer better distribution than Pac-12 Network. What a shame … and what a reminder of why USC left the Pac-12 Conference.

George Kliavkoff could not simply come into the Pac-12 and immediately end Pac-12 Network contracts and current media rights arrangements. He needed to be able to redraw the map and the terms under which Pac-12 games were shown. He never had a legitimate chance to do that.

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Huge USC-Oregon State game on Sept. 24 is relegated to Pac-12 Network

This is exactly why #USC left for the Big Ten. There is absolutely no excuse for a huge #Pac12 game being dumped onto the lowest-visibility TV outlet.

On Monday, something happened which reminded all of us in the Pac-12 Conference footprint that George Kliavkoff had no chance to prevent USC from leaving for the Big Ten. He really didn’t.

There was so much damage, and so many contractual knots to untie, that Kliavkoff could not have been reasonably expected to unwind them in one year. Yet, one year is all Kliavkoff had before USC left for the Big Ten.

One year was simply not long enough for Kliavkoff to keep USC in the fold. He needed at least a two-year window, probably three … and he didn’t have that amount of time.

What did happen on Monday, you ask? Here you go: The USC-Oregon State football game on Saturday, Sept. 24 — a huge game in the 2022 Pac-12 title chase — has been relegated to Pac-12 Network.

It’s true: This huge game for both teams (the Beavers as well as the Trojans) has been kicked to the lowest-visibility television outlet. A top-tier game has received bottom-rung treatment. A lot of USC fans (with DirecTV) will not be able to watch this game.

Jon Wilner of The Wilner Hotline explained why this is the case:

USC-Cal should be on Pac-12 Network. That game won’t be remotely close. USC-Arizona might be legitimately interesting this year, given how much Arizona has improved, but if we’re choosing between that and USC-Oregon State, it’s clear that USC-Arizona is the Pac-12 Network game. USC-Arizona State is another Pac-12 Network candidate.

ESPN and Fox Sports both did a profound disservice to viewers by not picking up USC-Oregon State, but the biggest problem here is Pac-12 Network being a low-visibility outlet. If it had full distribution on a regular cable tier, we wouldn’t have this problem.

Even ESPNU would offer better distribution than Pac-12 Network. What a shame … and what a reminder of why USC left the Pac-12 Conference.

George Kliavkoff could not simply come into the Pac-12 and immediately end Pac-12 Network contracts and current media rights arrangements. He needed to be able to redraw the map and the terms under which Pac-12 games were shown. He never had a legitimate chance to do that.

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How to watch, listen or stream Oregon vs Eastern Washington in home opener

Oregon hosts Eastern Washington for the 2022 home opener officially scheduled for a 5:30 p.m. start on the Pac-12 Network.

The Oregon Ducks football team returns to Autzen Stadium as they will host the Eastern Washington Eagles (1-0) at 5:44 PST on the Pac-12 Network.

This will be the third game of a Saturday tripleheader on the network as Southern Utah at Utah will literally kick off a day full of football at 10:30 a.m. PST. Next will be Alcorn State going into the Rose Bowl to face Chip Kelly’s UCLA team at 2 p.m. PST before the Ducks and Eagles round out the day.

TV: Pac-12 Network Comcast 421 SD or 720 and 1329 HD
Dish Network 406, 409, 5438

Play-By-Play: Ted Robinson
Analyst: Yogi Roth

RADIO: Oregon Sports Network, KUJZ-FM 95.3 (Eugene) KFXX-AM 1080 (Portland) Sirius: 133 XM: 197

Play-By-Play: Jerry Allen
Analyst: Mike Jorgensen
Sideline Reporter: Joey McMurry
Pre-Game Show: Terry Jonz

OPPONENT’S RADIO: Eagles Sports Radio Network
700-AM ESPN and 105.3-FM in the Spokane/Cheney area

Play-by-Play: Larry Weir
Analyst: Paul Sorenson

LIVE STREAM: fuboTV (try it free)

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Northern Arizona vs. Arizona State, live stream, preview, TV channel, time, how to watch college football

The Northern Arizona Lumberjacks will meet the Arizona State Sun Devils on Thursday night from Sun Devil Stadium.

The Northern Arizona Lumberjacks will meet the Arizona State Sun Devils on Thursday night from Sun Devil Stadium.

The Lumberjacks are coming off a 5-6 season and while that doesn’t look great, four of those six losses came against ranked opponents. As for Arizona State, they finished third in the Pac-12 and 8-5 on the season and ultimately lost in the Las Vegas Bowl to Wisconsin. The Sun Devils had 17 players enter the transfer protocol after their up and down season.

This will be a great night of college football, here is everything you need to know to watch and stream the action on Thursday.

Northern Arizona vs. Arizona State

  • When: Thursday, September 1
  • Time: 10:00 p.m. ET
  • TV Channel: PAC 12 Network
  • Live Stream: fuboTV (watch for free)

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The sad irony about the Pac-12 Network: It put out a very good product

Pac-12 Network had great production values. Anchors, camera operators, technicians, and other staffers did a great job. It didn’t make $ because the business model was wrong.

There are many sad realities attached to the failure of Pac-12 Network to lift the standing and revenue of the Pac-12 Conference to the level it needed. The overall failure of Pac-12 Network is embodied by USC and UCLA leaving for the Big Ten. If Pac-12 Network was hitting its targets, the Trojans and Bruins wouldn’t have felt the need to bolt.

One of the especially sad dimensions of the Pac-12 Network story is that the product itself — what you saw on the screen, getting beamed into your home, if you did have access to the P-12 Net — was really very good.

The problem with Pac-12 Network was never the production quality of a game or studio broadcast. All the people who were responsible for putting a good product on the air did an absolutely fantastic job. The network’s daily work gained industry respect, as The Athletic’s oral history — interviewing people associated with the network’s evolution — indicates:

Ryan Currier, senior vice president for engineering and products: We were the first network in the history of TV in the United States to launch a TV-everywhere product on the same day as a linear cable channel.

Adametz: There weren’t enough production trucks on the West Coast to produce the number of events we were supposed to do. We couldn’t do it as a traditional model. I remember meeting with Gary (Stevenson), pitching him on a different way to do it: using IP signals from all our campuses sent back to our production center, and doing multiple events simultaneously.

Adametz: ESPN came to see it. They were like, this can’t be real. How are you doing this? And we just showed them, because we were a not-for-profit, this is how we do it. We had a broadcaster fly in from Norway. They heard what we were doing and came and wanted to see it in person. It was pretty revolutionary.

Adamson: For all the criticism that I’ve heard over the years, no one’s ever criticized the product.

Still the number of events created issues. During the 2014-15 sports season, the Pac-12 Networks produced 850 events for linear TV. By comparison, the Big Ten Network reportedly produced 500. Another problem: While the six regional networks provided a local element to carriers and fan bases, it also caused problems. Notably, the channels all looked the same.

Moos: To some degree, (the regional networks model) had its assets, but it also had its liabilities. When you have an alumni base with a rural campus like Washington State, most of your alums aren’t in Pullman or even Spokane. There are a lot of them in Los Angeles, San Francisco, Phoenix, and they weren’t able to get a lot of our content because it was primarily limited to the region.

Weiberg: The idea of 850 was a very large number.

Petix: It became like a weight around your neck as the years went on. There were just too many events that we were contractually obligated to air that simply didn’t generate revenue.

Young: What I think began to happen near the end of my tenure and accelerated after I left was the realization that expenses might be slightly out of control. That is to say where they chose to site the television station, the cost of renting that, the cost of going full-blown with all the equipment to broadcast all of these different games. The size of the capital investment and so forth was a little startling.

Petix: It all comes back to dollars. All roads were always leading back to, will we or won’t we with DirecTV?

It’s really sad, even annoying to a degree: All these talented people were doing a great job, but the business model and larger aims of the Pac-12 Network were woefully off the mark, as established by Larry Scott with no intervention from Pac-12 presidents. A great product did not make anything close to the money needed to truly elevate the conference.

What a waste.

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From the start, Larry Scott didn’t understand the importance of football to the Pac-12

The Athletic’s oral history of Pac-12 Network clearly shows that Larry Scott failed to grasp the significance of making the network a football-first operation.

Pac-10 Commissioner Tom Hansen ruled the conference for over a quarter of a century. Hansen was known for valuing the Olympic sports but not understanding — or putting enough effort into — building the Pac’s football brand.

Larry Scott was supposed to be different, but it’s striking how similar to Hansen he became.

This is affirmed in The Athletic’s oral history of Pac-12 Network:

(Former UCLA coach and Pac-12 Network analyst Rick) Neuheisel: I said we need to have some good (football) games if we’re going to make people find the game. It was actually the same strategy the SEC Network employed when they started their network. Remember that South Carolina-Texas A&M game? That was on their channel. The ACC did the same thing when they started that opening weekend with all those conference games, making sure that people had to tune in.

(Former Pac-12 Network programming director Mark) Petix: I will never forget this. On one of (DirecTV’s) FAQ pages, they said, “We do not have any carriage deal with the Pac-12 Networks at this time. However, we can assure you the bulk of quality Pac-12 games can be seen on Fox and ESPN,” and then listed out the scores in weeks 1-3 of the games that were on Pac-12 Networks.  And it was one of the strongest flexes I’ve seen. It was bullet points of (blowout scores). You didn’t see a close result. [The average margin for all games aired by the network through its first five seasons was 23.7 points.]

Michael K. Young, Washington president (2011-15): The design was to make available (football) games of marginal interest. It sounds kind of insulting, but games that were not necessarily going to be picked up by ESPN. … And then to pick up an awful lot of the subsidiary sports.

It is worth noting that Larry Scott’s wayward vision, clearly not in step with the long-term needs of the conference, was not corrected by conference presidents. Scott drove the conference into its current position, but conference administrators didn’t put a halt to these bad decisions. That has to be pointed out.

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Pac-12 Network’s 10th anniversary brings an awareness of why it ultimately failed

Pac-12 Network programming first aired on Aug. 15, 2012. One of the many reasons for the network’s failure: It lacked a central TV backer with muscle and clout.

August 15, 2012. This was the first day on which Pac-12 Network programming was beamed to American television viewers.

A 10th anniversary reflects a certain degree of longevity and would therefore normally be celebrated in the television and media spheres. However, the Pac-12 Network’s 10th anniversary does not merit celebration. It is and has been exceptional in bad ways more than good.

To be sure, the network has done some good. It has promoted Olympic sports and women’s basketball. It has convinced a lot of athletes who grew up in the Pac-12’s geographical footprint to stay in the West for Olympic sports and women’s hoops. The Pac-12 has grown in strength, depth and quality as a women’s basketball conference, and that certainly ought to be celebrated.

Yet, in terms of making money for the conference, burnishing the league’s overall national reputation, and — centrally — boosting the football profile and track record of the conference, the Pac-12 Network has fallen far short.

USC and UCLA leaving for the Big Ten offer powerful and central proof of the Pac-12 Network’s failures.

To mark this 10th anniversary, The Athletic unrolled an oral history of the network.

There are many layers of the onion to peel away. Let’s start with this foundational point made by former Pac-12 deputy commissioner Kevin Weiberg, who had previously worked at another conference-specific entity, the Big Ten Network:

“I was really unsure about (the model), to be honest with you, because I had participated in the distribution effort for Big Ten Network with a major media company partner in Fox, and had we not had Fox as a partner, I’m not sure we would have achieved full distribution for Big Ten Network.”

The instability and lack of heft possessed by the Pac-12 Network contain multiple root sources. This is certainly one of them. Aligning with ESPN — more precisely, allowing ESPN to run the Pac-12 Network in exchange for larger and more pervasive distribution, with football and men’s basketball being the centerpieces — was not what Larry Scott wanted.

If the Pac-12 Network had chosen alignment with ESPN — either in 2012, when it was born, or in 2018, when the conference had a chance to reconsider its position — USC and UCLA would not have moved to the Big Ten. That central TV partner is something the network always lacked.

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