Exit interview: Happy trails to PGA Tour VP of competitions Mark Russell

Nearly 60 years after Mark Russell attended his first golf tournament in Greensboro, he’s calling it quits on a 40-year career.

GREENSBORO, N.C. – Nearly 60 years after Mark Russell attended his first golf tournament here, he’s calling it quits on a 40-year career as a PGA Tour rules official and tournament director not far from where he grew up.

“The first time I came to a golf tournament, my father brought me and a buddy of mine here in 1963. Doug Sanders won the tournament,” recalled Russell, who was raised an hour south in Kannapolis.

He followed PGA Tour pros Dave Marr and Al Besselink and so began a longtime love affair with the game. Russell worked in golf course maintenance at Alamance Country Club, mowing greens with Bobby Long, the man credited with saving Greensboro’s golf tournament, while attending Elon College. Afterward graduation, he went to Orlando for a couple of weeks and he’s been there for more than 45 years.

He spent one summer working at Mickey’s theme park, transferred to the golf course division and became Walt Disney World’s director of golf, including the role of chairman of the Walt Disney World Golf Classic.

“I met all the guys who were doing the golf tour,” Russell said. “Clyde Mangum called me up, God rest his soul, and said, ‘Would you be interested in going to work for the PGA Tour in the rules committee? That was 1980. They didn’t have to ask me twice.”

Russell, 69 and vice president of competitions, ends his run as the longest-active tenured employee at the PGA Tour, having led the competitions department since 1999 with Slugger White. Russell returned to 16 or 17 tournaments this season to say farewell, selecting the events, such as Los Angeles, Bay Hill and Hartford, that he administered for four decades.

“When you stop and think about 40 years, I mean, I spent 40 weeks in these places, you know, that’s 40 weeks of your life in Hartford, Connecticut,” he said.

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PGA Tour rules official Mark Russell answers questions from CBS Sports analyst David Feherty at the 2013 Farmers Insurance Open at Torrey Pines. Photo by Christopher Hanewinckel-USA TODAY Sports

“Big Russ,” as he was affectionately called, was visible, yet wanted to stay invisible. He was conspicuous, and easily recognizable with his syrupy Southern drawl, but tried to be inconspicuous. Sitting in his roofless cart in the shade along the fifth fairway at Sedgefield Golf Club during the third round, Russell was approached by a fan, Gerald Lewis, 60, who is unaware that this is Russell’s swan song. All Lewis knows is that as a son of a Baptist preacher who was taught to do things the right way, he appreciates Russell’s role in the game.

“Every time I see you, I know the integrity of golf is going to be upheld,” Lewis said. “You don’t kiss up to names.”

Russell is touched by these words and agrees to take a picture in his cart with Lewis by his side.

“Hey, we play golf by the rules,” Russell replied.

One week after White, his fellow longtime rules and competitions colleague, hung up his Panama hat, it’s Russell’s turn and here is a condensed version of his exit interview with Golfweek:

Q: How often do people bring up Craig Stadler’s disqualification for placing a towel underneath his knee so he didn’t soil his pants?

Mark Russell: All the time. No matter what the situation is, you can’t put something down and play golf off of it. You can’t build a stance. I’m amazed that Craig didn’t call for a ruling. I saw him last week, talked to him a little bit. He was out there at Truckee, California, watching (son) Kevin play (at the Barracuda Championship). But you can’t do that. So, he had tied for second but he signed for a wrong score on Saturday and got disqualified.

Q: What’s the craziest ruling you’ve been involved in?

MR: It’s hard to classify crazy. At the 2011 Players, we got word that K.J. Choi’s caddie is getting something out of his golf bag and throwing it up to see which way the wind blows. You can’t have an outside device. By the 16th hole, it was panic city. I got to go into scoring (before a playoff with David Toms) and ask him what he did. If he has used something illegally to test the wind, it’s going to be a disqualification.

It turned out his caddie, Andy Prodger, was using a handkerchief. That was OK. I said, “Let’s go play off, sign your scorecard. Let’s get this done.” That was stressful because if we had to disqualify K.J., can you imagine the reaction in the media center? It would’ve rocked the golf world.

Q: How about another unusual one?

MR: During the Bob Hope Desert Classic one year, Gary Hallberg hit a shot on the roof of the clubhouse and it stayed there. The only place he was allowed a drop from the obstruction was in a very rocky area. So, he took his sand wedge with him on top of the roof, chipped down to about 10 feet and made his par. No kidding, he made his par.

But you know, most of the rulings are pretty much you’re either in or you’re out. You did something or you didn’t. Jack Tuthill taught me years ago, you have to ask the incriminating question. Well, did you do anything to cause it to move?

Q: What are your memories from the 1963 GGO and the first time you attended a tournament here in Greensboro?

MR: My dad took my friend and I out and I watched a guy I’d never heard of named Al Besselink. I later learned he married not one, but two Miss Americas. He was dressed immaculately, pushed-back blond hair, I’m telling ya, he blew me away. He acted like he was having a good time and he could play. I got to know him later on when I was running the golf at Disney and I watched him and he was an incredible wedge player. On the range, he hit this 90-yard, little punch wedge and say, it’s like chopping cane, buddy, there’s nothing to it.

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Paul Casey takes a drop in front of caddie John McLaren and PGA Tour rules official Mark Russell during the final round of the 2019 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am golf tournament at Pebble Beach Golf Links. Photo by Kyle Terada-USA TODAY Sports

Q: I hear you’re playing lots of golf already and you’ve figured out how to place orders on Amazon and eBay?

MR: I’ve always played a lot of golf. I’m a guy that goes out there at five o’clock in the afternoon during summertime and plays until dark. I’ve done that my whole life.

I have a putter that is called the Dandy that a guy named Allan Strand invented for a straight back and through, pendulum stroke and it’s got an onset shaft and I’ve always putted with my hands like that anyway. I ran into him one day, must have been 25 years ago, and he explained the science behind it. I think Grant Waite was using it, Vijay won the Masters with one and Dr. Gil Morgan won 17 Champions Tour events with a Dandy putter. Allan passed away probably eight or nine years ago, but if I see one on eBay, I’ll buy it. There were three for sale last week and I bought all three. I catch a lot of crap for using this putter, but I can assure you it’s a superior product.

Q: As you made your goodbye tour, how have the various tournaments honored you?

MR: It’s really been incredible. At the Colonial, they gave me and Slugger a replica of the Ben Hogan trophy and the players gave me a pair of custom boots. In Hartford, they gave a watercolor painting of Jordan Spieth holing out to win in the playoff. This week the Jaycees gave me a plaque with some beautiful words.

Tiger did some nice things for me. I had to make a ruling down there in The Bahamas (at the Hero World Challenge) where he hit the ball twice. He’s under a bush and he did hit it twice, but he didn’t know that. And it was a deal where they had changed the rule so if you couldn’t see it with your naked eye then you were exonerated. He sent me a picture of that taking place and the statement that I gave to the press about it. And then he wrote on there, “Thanks, Mark. Fabulous ruling, Tiger Woods.” He did that the night before he was in that accident. He really didn’t have to do that. They’ve done all kinds of nice things. People couldn’t have been nicer to me.

Q: Do you have any future plans?

MR: I’m working on a golf sitcom with a comedy writer, Chris Case, in Los Angeles. I’ve always thought that it would be funny to have a sitcom around a public golf course. Think about it, you’ve been around a golf course enough, some of the craziest (stuff) you’ll ever see happens there. Unlimited amount of characters. So, we’re working on that. I’d love to contribute to the game and have a funny sitcom, you know, turn people on to the game, make people laugh.

Q: Give me a sense of your style of humor. What would be your favorite sitcom?

MR: Well, it’d be kind of a toss up between Seinfeld and The Big Bang Theory.

Q: Do you think there will be a shot clock on the PGA Tour in your lifetime?

MR: No chance. The big thing is, like this week, we play 156 players. Why do you want to play fast? You’ve got eight more groups each wave than you’ve got holes to start on. Where are you going to go?

Q: Don’t you want to give out one last slow play penalty (during the final round of the Wyndham Championship) for old time’s sake?

MR: (Chuckles) Not really. Again, we’ve got 156 players, we should never do that in 2021. This Tour should be 120 players maximum. You know, when they came up with (fields of 156), there was no place to play. Now we’ve got the Korn Ferry Tour. We’ve got PGA Tour Champions, tours in Canada and Latin America, too. You know, if you’re good enough, you’re going to be right back here. But I mean, 156 guys, there’s groups waiting 10, 12 minutes at the turn to play. That all goes away if you did that, like at Bay Hill, 120 players and we give them 12-minute intervals and they can’t catch each other. I mean, the slow players have no place to hide.

Most of the slow players play so much better if they go ahead and play. You know, I said, we oughta make them play like that on the range. You can only hit one ball a minute, and then they’d realize. But for the most part, like I say on Thursday and Friday, we breed slow play. There’s no place to go.

Q: How do you summarize your career?

MR: I mean, back when I started we played for $100,000 and nobody was complaining. That’s 18th place now. A huge golf tournament purse was $400,000, first place prize of $72,000. I used to buy one of those big Rand McNally maps every year, you know? Now you just punch an address in your phone. That was science fiction 25 years ago.

But it’s been fantastic to spend my career in golf and with the PGA Tour being such a charitable thing, these golf tournaments have helped out so many people, you know, $3 billion for local charities they’ve raised over the years. Labron Harris came up with the line that the leading money winner on the Tour is charity. It’s a great slogan and it’s true.

I’ve had a good run. I’ve been so blessed and fortunate to see what I’ve seen in golf being in here with these players like that. If I wasn’t good enough to play, the next best thing is to go down into the heat of the battle and be part of serious decisions, you know? In my job, you’ve got to go over and say, ‘What can I do to help you?’ We just want to get it right. We don’t ever want be wrong.

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End of an era: Mark Russell, Slugger White to retire from PGA Tour in 2021

The PGA Tour’s two most visible figures in terms of administering the Rules of Golf will retire in 2021 after 40-plus years on the job.

It’s an end of an era. PGA Tour rules officials Mark Russell and Slugger White, who both hold the titles of vice president of competitions and have led the competitions department since 1999, confirmed that they will work their final events in 2021 after more than 40 years of service. The news was originally shared with Tour staff in an internal memo.

Russell, 69, the Tour’s longest tenured active employee (since Karen Rose retired in June), said he still plans to work 16-20 events next year and assist in a smooth transition.

“It’s not like it’s the last time you’re going to see me,” said Russell, who is working this week’s QBE Challenge. “I’m not really riding off into the sunset. I’m more into the thinking of riding off into the sunset stage. I’ll be around next year. I’m going to be out there to help them. I’m not leaving immediately.”

White, 71, who played four seasons on the Tour from 1976-79 – “probably three and a half too many,” he cracked – joined the Tour’s staff on January 1, 1982. He said he intends to work 6-8 events and that his swan song may be the Memorial in late May.

“That’s enough for me,” said White, who became recognizable for his distinctive Panama hat. “It’s been a damn good run. It’s time to pass the baton, which is fine. I’m not going to be afraid to relax a little bit.”

When asked to describe what made White good at his job, Russell said he was a good listener.

“I always felt like whenever I was in a situation that my blood pressure went down,” White said. “It never went up.”

Mark Russell pulls the flag during the TaylorMade Driving Relief on May 17, 2020 at Seminole Golf Club in Juno Beach, Florida. (Mike Ehrmann/Pool Photo via USA TODAY Network)

The announcement comes on the heels of European Tour veterans John Paramour and Andy McFee working their final events in October.

Together with Russell and White, the world of professional golf is losing more than 160 years of experience at the top of the game. Their retirement will leave a void in the administration of the Rules of Golf.

In addition, John Lillvis, who came to the PGA Tour from the LPGA, and Dillard Pruitt, a former winner on the PGA Tour, have retired after 20-year stints as rules officials.

Gary Young will head up the Tour’s Rules and Competitions department. Steve Rintoul, John Mutch, Stephen Cox and Ken Tackett were all promoted to the role of senior tournament director on the PGA Tour.

Daniela Lendl, 27, the daughter of tennis great Ivan Lendl, will become the PGA Tour’s first female rules official, and will work on the Korn Ferry Tour. She was a member of the University of Alabama’s national championship team in 2012, and spent the last three years at the USGA, most recently as an assistant manager of rules operations.

But the loss of golf’s four most prominent faces at applying the Rules of Golf at essentially the same time begs the question: how do the PGA Tour and European Tour begin to replace that institutional knowledge?

“The most important thing to me over the years that I thought I was responsible for was hiring the best possible people,” Russell said. “I’m extremely proud of the people that Slugger and I have hired and I’m sure it will carry on.”

“It’s a lot of years and you take a lot of experience with you,” White said. “I hope I’ve given some of that experience out and I’ll be around for a little bit. They know what they’re doing and they’ll be fine.”

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PGA Tour Rules Official Slugger White rides alongside Tiger Woods on the 11th hole during the third round of the Tour Championship at East Lake Golf Club on Sept. 26, 2009 in Atlanta, Georgia. Photo by Kevin C. Cox/Getty Images

The following is an interview Golfweek conducted with Slugger White:

GW: What was the first event you worked and did you experience a baptism by fire?

SW: 1982, Palm Springs. I gave my first ruling by myself to Jack Nicklaus, how about that. It was funny because I’d seen him earlier that week and he said, “Well, I understand you’re not playing anymore,” and he wished me good luck.

I was sitting at the 12th hole at Torrey Pines and I got a call and Gordie Glenz, he was a rules official and my mentor, Gordie says, “Go ahead, you’ve got it.” You could hear me coming from a mile away, like a covered wagon, the cart was so loud. Jack was standing there and I had to tell him that it was a French drain and we treat it as ground under repair. He looked at me with those steely blue eyes and said, “Are you sure?” I said, “I’m positive.” He said, “OK, where do I drop?” That was my indoctrination. We’ve talked about it since. He doesn’t remember it, but I damn well do.

GW: What decision kept you up the most at night?

SW: The one that bugged me the most was with Kevin Stadler out in Las Vegas in 2005, when we had to disqualify him for starting with a non-conforming club that he had nothing to do with and it just made me sick to my stomach.

I was sitting behind the first green when I got radioed. I thought it was going to be a 15th club, which is real easy. He showed me a wedge that was bent. I told him I know where this is headed, I’m 99 percent sure, but we’ll talk about it as a committee. That’s what we do. He continued to play. He was coming down the ninth hole and I had to disqualify him and drive him in. Hell, he was in tears, his caddie was in tears and I was all choked up about it. It was gut wrenching. That rule has since changed from a DQ to a penalty.

Other than that, there’s nothing else that I feel like I screwed up, at least I hope I didn’t. But we always say if you don’t think you’re going to make a mistake, you’re mistaken. Back then there were 1,200 decisions. I’m smart enough to know that I’m not smart enough to know 1,200 decisions. I can find them, but I haven’t memorized 1,200 decisions.

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Paul Casey takes a drop in front of caddie John McLaren and rules official Mark Russell (center) on the 18th hole during the final round of the 2019 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am at Pebble Beach Golf Links. Photo by Kyle Terada/USA TODAY Sports

GW: Do you think the new slow-play policies being implemented next season will be effective?

SW: I really hope they do. I never really felt we had a slow play problem. The reason I say that is because it’s hard to play fast when you’re playing for that kind of money. What has slowed our play down is agronomy. Our greens are so fast now. When I was playing, the greens ran at 8.5-9 (on the Stimpmeter) and you could finish out. Now they all mark it out. But I hope it does. The big thing is it will recognize the slow players. We have too many players now who are slow and if they just got on with it the flow would be fine, you’d just play and wouldn’t have to slow down.

GW: When’s the last time you gave out a slow-play penalty?

SW: I think the last one, and this has been a while, is Glen Day at Honda, years and years ago. Now, we’ve got it to where you really have to be – I don’t want to use an adjective you can’t print – but you’ve got to be a dumb ass, how about that? You really do. I’m sorry. You can paraphrase that as much as you want, but you’ve got to be really looking to be penalized to be penalized. To be penalized you have to be hit twice and you’ve got to be an idiot to be get hit the second time and we haven’t gotten to that point.

GW: How long have you worn the Panama hat?

SW: I’ve done that I’d say 25 years, maybe more. I had some skin cancers cut off me and so I adopted the hat. I think it helps somewhat – I haven’t had anything cut off in a while – but I’m not sure enough.

GW: What current player would make the best rules official?

SW: I can’t think of anyone off the top of my head. Shoot, I don’t know if they could take the pay cut!

GW: What are you most proud of from your 40 years on the job?

SW: I feel like I’ve been respected by the players. The respect is there and that means everything to me. I’m really proud of the team Mark and I put together on our rules staff.

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