Detroit Lions Podcast: Spring workout wrap-up show

Detroit Lions Podcast: Spring workout wrap-up show live with Chris and Lions Wire’s Jeff Risdon

The spring session OTAs and mandatory minicamp are all wrapped up for the Detroit Lions. That means it’s time for the Detroit Lions Podcast spring wrap-up episode.

Recorded live on the DLP YouTube channel on Friday afternoon, this episode covers a lot of the Lions topics from the spring season. Among the notable points:

  • Jared Goff contract extension in light of the new Trevor Lawrence deal
  • Which players stood out during minicamp and OTAs?
  • What can be taken away from unpadded workouts
  • No more rookie holdouts
  • Hendon Hooker and Jameson Williams progress
  • Weak points on the depth chart
  • The Chris Spielman/Rick Spielman podcast episode
  • The pending Jake Bates addition and upcoming kicking battle

The audio-only version of the show is available via your favorite podcast provider.

Watch: Video recap covering Lions minicamp performances and observations

Watch: Video recap covering Lions minicamp performances and observations from Detroit Lions Podcast

Detroit Lions minicamp featured three days of full team practice, with the healthy veterans and all the newcomers working out together for the first time. In conjunction with the Detroit Lions Podcast, I recorded a video recap and summary of the week in Allen Park.

Some of the discussion points are covered in the written recap of minicamp as well. Among the topics hit here in the video:

  • Terrion Arnold’s performance
  • Jameson Williams
  • Hendon Hooker
  • A kicking battle between Michael Badgley and James Turner
  • Surprise performers
  • The retirement of Mike O’Hara
  • The confidence and presence of this being a very good football team

The audio-only version is available from your favorite podcast provider as well.

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Hendon Hooker riding the (almost) rookie roller coaster

Lions QB Hendon Hooker is riding the (almost) rookie roller coaster in OTAs and minicamp

Going into the Detroit Lions minicamp this week, one of the focal points was the play and progress of second-year quarterback Hendon Hooker. After missing his rookie season with a knee injury suffered in his final college game at Tennessee, Hooker remains largely unknown and unproven in the NFL.

I got a first glimpse of Hooker in action in the OTA session that was open to the media. Working with a lot of first-team reps in a bit of a crash course. He had mixed results overall; some reps were very impressive and demonstrated the promise that made me rate him as a borderline first-round QB prospect in the 2023 NFL Draft. Other reps showed a lack of decisiveness and some oddly wild accuracy.

That’s not an unexpected development for a rookie player working with heretofore unfamiliar receivers and a big gap of time in playing. Hooker hadn’t faced live defense, even in an unpadded practice, in almost 18 months. Rust and nerves are perfectly normal. That OTA practice served as something of a baseline for my experience and expectations for Hooker for the coming months.

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Wednesday’s minicamp session was the second exposure. I don’t really know what I was expecting to see, to be honest. Maybe I wanted to see a little progress on the accuracy front. I was definitely hoping to see more of Hooker being instinctive instead of thinking and delaying too much. That’s something Hooker himself mentioned after the OTA practice that he was looking to remedy; he noted how much better he felt he played when “the brain shut off and I just played” instead of thinking about it.

Alas, that didn’t happen on Wednesday, not consistently anyway. Hooker is clearly still learning the tendencies of his receivers. Every receiver runs each route a little uniquely, and there were a couple of times where Hooker’s pass would have been fine for, say, 6-foot-2 and long-armed Daurice Fountain, but wasn’t where smaller, faster Kalif Raymond wanted or expected the ball. Again, that’s perfectly normal and shouldn’t be seen as an inability to throw an accurate pass as much as it is inexperience.

After a generally positive and more commanding start to Wednesday’s session, Hooker guided the Lions offense into a hurry-up drill. Adding in the variable of the pressure of a ticking clock did not go well for Hooker. He infuriated offensive coordinator Ben Johnson by holding the ball too long and also checking down for insignificant yardage gains that weren’t worth the seconds burned to attain them.

The accuracy when he held the ball too long, an issue in the OTAs, got even worse on Wednesday with the pressure of leading the first-team offense under duress. A bounced throw here, a bad overthrow there. The well-oiled machine with Jared Goff at the helm ground to a frustrating halt with Hooker running the show. It wasn’t all bad; Hooker quickly chose to tuck and run on one rep and chewed up yards against an unsuspecting safety group on one rep, and he drilled a deep out on a precise timing route to quickly move the chains on another.

Head coach Dan Campbell remains encouraged by Hooker’s progress. As Campbell noted this week, the Lions are working hard to get him up to speed as the backup quarterback. It’s a deliberate test for Hooker.

“He’s gotten, I don’t know, but I would guess he’s gotten more game situations as a backup quarterback than probably most in a spring,” Campbell said before Thursday’s practice. “We’ve put him in so many hard situations, which has been unbelievable to have those.”

Thursday’s practice was more of the same. There were instinctive, quick, decisive throws that looked fantastic. Accurate balls on smart decisions. There were just as many where Hooker didn’t get the ball out when it needed to be and he was off-target. The hurry-up scenario at the end of Thursday’s session, with Hooker operating the second-team offense, was so bad that the coaches pulled the plug on the drill early instead of trying to convert a fourth-and-long after Hooker missed one throw and took far too long to check down on another.

Even though Hooker isn’t technically a rookie, it’s important to view him as a rookie. It’s much more intellectually honest to view Hooker through that prism. It’s also a little less frustrating too, knowing that he’s going through all this at the professional level for the first time.

I’ve seen rookie QBs of all calibers before. I spent a lot of time around both DeShone Kizer and Baker Mayfield as rookies in Cleveland. I sort of remember the (mercifully brief) Brad Kaaya and Jake Rudock experiences in Detroit. David Blough, too. Learning how to make quicker decisions against faster/smarter/more complicated defenses is something every rookie has to withstand. Hooker is doing that with mixed results right now, which is perfectly acceptable.

It’s the next step, and how quickly he makes it, that is the key. Like a roller coaster, there are peaks and valleys to endure along the way. Some sharp turns and vortexes to navigate along the way are part of the rookie ride, too. Even so, I want to see progress from what we’ve seen from Hooker this spring to the end of the preseason. I expect it.

The Lions clearly want and expect the same, and they do so with a tremendous amount of confidence that Hooker will validate their pre-draft assessment. I share that confidence too, though it’s hard to not get a little anxious in seeing Hooker’s growing pains up close and personal.

 

 

New Lions DT D.J. Reader might not be ready to start training camp

Head coach Dan Campbell indicated Lions DT D.J. Reader might not be ready to start training camp as he recovers from a torn quadriceps.

With mandatory minicamp wrapping up on Thursday, Detroit Lions head coach Dan Campbell provided a bit of a health update on a couple of free agent signees who have been out with injuries.

Most notably, Campbell offered the first real sense of a timeline for defensive tackle D.J. Reader. Signed as a priority early in the free agency process, Reader is still recovering from a torn quadriceps that ended his 2023 season with the Cincinnati Bengals.

“Yeah, I would say Reader would be the one who – he’ll be a decision on at what point is he ready to start practicing,” Campbell said of the projected starter. “But that’s not something that we’re caught off guard by. We knew this would take a minute here. I would anticipate everybody else to be pretty close to ready, if not it’s going to be tight. It’ll be enough to where they’re going to get a really good amount of training camp work, if that makes sense.

So no, there’s nobody that I’m alarmed by. I would say Reader is probably the one that’s going to take a minute.”

Earlier this offseason, Reader talked optimistically about his recovery. It’s the same injury he suffered in 2020. Reader suffered this latest injury in mid-December, which puts him at a little over six months out. With training camp starting in another seven or so weeks, that gives Reader almost eight full months of recovery.

Campbell indicated that every other currently sidelined player should be “pretty close to ready” to start training camp. That list includes CB Emmanuel Moseley, LT Taylor Decker, RB Jahmyr Gibbs, DB Brian Branch, S Kerby Joseph and EDGE Marcus Davenport.

Dan Campbell shares his message to Lions vets on the final day of minicamp

Dan Campbell shares his message to Lions vets on the final day of minicamp and added his own goal for the 2024 season

Thursday is the final day of Detroit Lions minicamp. And while the team does have OTA sessions on the docket for next week, the veterans are excused from participating.

In other words, it’s the last practice session of the offseason before training camp begins in about seven weeks. Head coach Dan Campbell praised the veteran Detroit players for showing him they were in great shape and ready to work this week.

When asked what message he wants to convey to the vets as they leave for their break, Campbell focused his eyes on the prize.

“Remember–what are we playing for?” Campbell said in a tone that wasn’t really a question. “Each individual, what do you want? What do you want out of this year? What do you want it to look like when we’re sitting here and it’s February? Where is your mind? So, think about that and let’s work backwards from there.”

As for what Campbell wants?

“You know what I want. I want the whole enchilada.”

He didn’t need to say any more than that. The goals and expectations are clear for both Campbell and his Lons players.

Dan Campbell: Lions DL Levi Onwuzurike ‘having a really good spring’

Dan Campbell: Lions DL Levi Onwuzurike ‘having a really good spring’ after bulking up to 300 pounds

It’s easy to notice Levi Onwuzurike in Detroit Lions practices. No. 91 on the defensive line is a large man who carries himself with a very upright gait that makes him appear much taller than most of his linemates. He’s also worked hard to get a rocked-up, muscular physique.

It’s also been easy to notice how well Onwuzurike is playing this spring. Now more than two years removed from spinal fusion surgery that many expected would end his young NFL career, the 2021 second-round pick is finally healthy. Lions head coach Dan Campbell has taken notice of Onwuzurike’s play.

After carefully curbing his own enthusiasm with the caveat that none of the action is in pads yet, Campbell couldn’t help himself getting excited about Onwuzurike.

“Levi is having a really good spring,” Campbell stated. “(Josh) Paschal is too but Levi – because where he’s come from and all he’s had to deal with, I mean, this guy just has continued to rehab, he’s continued to train his body and work, he’s put on weight because his back can handle it now, we got him through last year to where he’s able to bank some reps and he’s having a really good spring.”

No. 91 backed up his coach with a good performance in Wednesday’s minicamp session. He earned credit in my practice notebook,

Onwuzurike destroyed a Hooker bootleg to the right, which would have resulted in a huge loss (John Cominsky also wasn’t fooled and was right there too). Onwuzurike had pass rush wins aligned at RDE and LDT–though remember, it’s not padded practice yet.

One big reason for the successful spring is being more comfortable in his own body. Being healthy and capable of training has given him confidence. As Onwuzurike said after practice,

“The best way I can explain it is everything is moving together as one. Speed to power, my whole body feels like one, all together.”

He added that he’s playing at 300 pounds now, up from about 280 to start last year. The added muscle is noticeable even on a guy who always looked powerfully fit. Despite the added bulk, he’s also playing more DE in camp after playing almost exclusively inside most of his Lions career.

Lions DB Khalil Dorsey gets another pick-6, suffers injury

Lions DB Khalil Dorsey gets another pick-6 in minicamp but left Wednesday’s practice early with a leg injury

For the second practice at Detroit Lions minicamp in a row, cornerback Khalil Dorsey pulled off a pick-six in practice. It was part of an eventful day for the fifth-year cornerback.

Dorsey stepped in front of a Hendon Hooker pass near the goal line and returned it some 100 yards for a score during a team drill. No. 30 broke on the route almost immediately and caught the ball on a dead run–enough that the offensive players didn’t really give much chase.

That came a day after this much quicker pick-six:

Unfortunately for Dorsey, his practice ended early. Dorsey suffered a lower leg injury and is being evaluated, per the Lions.

Dorsey has seen a lot of action playing outside CB with the second unit with second-round rookie Ennis Rakestraw still limited after core muscle surgery this offseason. He has also been a fixture on special teams units.

Dan Campbell lists some exotic options for the Lions fullback spot

Dan Campbell lists some exotic options for the Lions fullback spot, including DT Alim McNeill

The Detroit Lions do not have a fullback on the roster. The days of Jason Cabinda are but a distant memory. However, the team will still use the fullback position as a small part of the offense.

Head coach Dan Campbell was asked about the fullback position before Wednesday’s minicamp session in Allen Park. Campbell noted the team will still use the fullback “when it makes sense” for the offense. That primarily happens to “get a specific look” from the defense, though Campbell did not elaborate on the detail.

Without an actual fullback on the roster and with none of the current running backs really fitting the bill for the role, where will the Lions turn when the situation calls for a fullback? Campbell laid out some interesting options.

Last year, linebacker Malcolm Rodriguez got some offensive reps at fullback. He did well, too, enough that he was the first name Campbell listed as an option for when the Lions will deploy a fullback.

After an allusion to the “stable of tight ends”–without directly naming any of them–Campbell then brought up a name that got the media room buzzing:

Alim McNeill.

As in, 315-pound defensive tackle Alim McNeill, one of the team’s strongest players but not one noted for his offense. Campbell noted that “we’ve talked a lot about it” with McNeill and that he’s open to the idea if the situation calls for it. Campbell added that McNeill’s defensive responsibilities might keep him from being available to handle FB reps at times.

McNeill did get some offensive touches back in high school. His bio at North Carolina State indicates McNeill scored 40 career touchdowns at Sanderson HS in North Carolina as a short-yardage specialist.

Dan Campbell on Lions rookie OL Giovanni Manu: ‘He is swimming’

Dan Campbell on Lions rookie OL Giovanni Manu: ‘He is swimming’ as a raw project in his first NFL minicamp

When the Detroit Lions traded up into the fourth round of the 2024 NFL Draft to select Giovanni Manu, the move was made with a clear eye for the future. For Manu, an offensive line prospect from the University of British Columbia with scant football experience, the present tense is all about learning and developing.

That’s something that has been as evident during Lions OTAs. Offensive line coach Hank Fraley has spent considerable time teaching the basics to Manu. It’s not been a quick or easy process for Manu, according to Lions head coach Dan Campbell.

“Yes, he’s swimming. He is swimming,” coach Campbell said before the start of this week’s mandatory minicamp. “But we expected him to be swimming. We fully expected this to get worse before it ever gets better. He’s trying to find his way.”

As Campbell continued, he described in detail a player who has to be taught just about everything needed to actually play offensive line.

“We’re back to the basics of how you get into a stance properly, where your weight goes, when you get out of a stance, where your help is, certainly the scheme, the MIKE, working with others, working with the tight end in this combination, working with the guard, pass and twist – he’s just in the infant stages of here we go.”

It’s not a surprise that Manu is a raw project. Campbell himself acknowledged that, noting that “we’re literally working from the ground up, and we knew it was going to be that way.”

It’s a clear indication that the team isn’t expecting much of a rookie contribution from the supremely athletic Manu. Much like Brodric Martin last season, Manu’s rookie campaign will be about learning how to do everything it takes to be a professional football player. The Lions are betting on the athleticism and driven character of Manu, as well as the developmental prowess of Fraley and the coaching staff, will pay big dividends down the road.

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Lions minicamp offers young safeties a chance to prove themselves

Lions minicamp offers young safeties like Brandon Joseph, Chelen Garnes and Loren Strickland a chance to prove themselves

This week’s mandatory minicamp at the Detroit Lions training facility in Allen Park is the only time between the end of the season and the start of training camp when all the Lions players will be required to be in attendance. Several of those players are recovering from injuries and won’t be able to participate, however.

Two of those are starting safeties, Kerby Joseph and Brian Branch. Both are in the process of rehabilitating from off-season leg surgeries and their absence in the secondary was particularly noticeable during the recent OTA sessions.

Joseph is the team’s top coverage safety, largely responsible for the single-high looks and deep-field roaming. Branch was outstanding as the Lions’ slot DB as a rookie, and he does pull some duty as a free safety in some packages, too. Without them in the lineup, the coverage issues with the rest of the safety room were starkly evident in last week’s practice.

Ifeatu Melifonwu is an effective starter as a box safety, but range and anticipation in coverage are not where he wins. He’s more of an attack dog, at his best blitzing and aggressively playing the run and routes in front of him. The arrow is pointing up for Melifonwu, but his limitations in man coverage and more split-safety looks were exacerbated without Branch and Kerby Joseph playing with him.

Brandon Joseph, a 2023 UDFA from Notre Dame, was the other starter with Melifownu last week. Known for his coverage ability in college, Joseph is one of a few young safeties who could seize opportunities in minicamp with the injuries above them on the depth chart.

For Joseph and 2024 undrafted rookies Chelen Garnes and Loren Strickland, there will be considerable reps to show what they can do. Veteran CJ Moore is back after missing 2023 due to a gambling suspension, and he’ll also have chances to prove he can be more than just a special teams asset–his primary role in his first tour of duty in Detroit.

It’s the thinnest position on the roster–on paper, anyway. Garnes, Joseph and Strickland could help ameliorate some serious depth concerns at safety for the Lions. Garnes, from Wake Forest, is more in the Melifonwu mold, a strong tackler with a powerful build and good closing burst to the ball carrier in the run game. He was the second-team safety behind Melifonwu during last week’s practice that was open to the media.

Strickland was the same sort of player during his college career at Ball State. It can be difficult for those types of players to make a positive impact in practices where tackling and hitting aren’t permitted. Even so, the opportunity and minicamp reps are there for someone to step up and seize a bigger role in the Lions defense.