AEW’s Ricky Starks ‘hates’ the idea of ‘Four Pillars’ term

AEW’s Ricky Starks questioned the usage of the “Four Pillars” term to describe the company’s foundational talent.

Leading up to last Sunday, AEW advertised a battle of the “Four Pillars,” or talent who helped lay the company foundation, for the Double or Nothing main event of the AEW World Championship.

One wrestler from that match, Darby Allin already spoke out against the term MJF coined. However, other AEW talent do not appear fond of the moniker either.

In an interview with The Corner Podcast, when the topic of AEW’s “Four Pillars” arose, Ricky Starks said he hates the idea of the pillars and questioned how it makes everyone else feel (h/t Fightful for transcription).

“I actually hate the idea of pillars. I loathe the idea of a pillar because one, it’s a full gimmick, and it came from one guy who, there’s nothing behind it. To say that these four dudes are the pillars of the company, you know what you’re doing by saying that? F everybody else who did anything. Those people don’t matter. It’s these three guys that we’ve deemed, ‘I have bestowed this sacred title upon thee, and I want you to go forth and do with it.’ No, I don’t believe in that. It’s a very sweet gesture to say Ricky should be considered a fifth pillar. Baby, I don’t need to be a pillar, okay? I can be a foundation. I can be the roof. I can be the person outside maintaining the lawn. I don’t need none of that. To me, that’s a box within itself. Four pillars, you got me, ‘What? Four pillars? Four pillars of what? Name one coliseum that you know that’s famous. I bet you couldn’t even do that,” Starks said.

Starks took the discussion further by questioning the ratings and money that the “Four Pillars” generate for AEW programming. He also stated that he does not want to be included in the conversation as a fifth pillar.

“So to say that these four guys are the ones that are gonna make and break, let’s see the numbers. Y’all wanna talk about ratings? Let’s see the ratings for y’all four. Let’s see how much money y’all making. If y’all want to keep bringing up all this bullshit, let’s see it, pen to paper. How are their ‘quarterly hours’ doing when y’all are on TV? Let’s see it. I want to see it. The Four Pillars, hell yeah. My paycheck is signed by those four dudes? Hell yeah, let me see. I don’t even like the conversation. I don’t even want to be included. Keep me away from that. I don’t want that. I don’t want to be considered a pillar. This ain’t All Japan. You don’t know shit about All Japan, I bet. I tell Max to his face, ‘You don’t know nothing about All Japan. Come on.’ You just want a slogan and a T-shirt. I can give you that. I can go to ChatGPT right now and get that AI to set us up with something,” Starks said.

With Double or Nothing over, we’ll see if AEW continues to use “Four Pillars.” This may depend on ensuing plans for the world title, especially if MJF feuds with one of Allin, Sammy Guevara or Jungle Boy. Otherwise, as pro wrestling shows have for years, they will find other ways to promote marquee matches.