A bit later, she expounded on other ways she felt Johnson contributed to the Lakers’ current success: “Using the word culture didn’t have clarity to me until Magic came. It’s like everybody knew ‘okay, the hammer is coming down, we’re serious, we’re about winning, we’re going to get back to winning,’ and how not only from the basketball side, but from every side of the organization, everybody sat up a little bit… It’s like ‘we’re here to do something, now this is what we’re committed to.’